Housing needs to be account based

[Impia]

I do. You're conflating work with opportunity. These are not the same.

[Karious]

I agree with Stormpeaks on this one. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Stormpeaks]

I agree with Stormpeaks on this one. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Thank you, I really wish people like that at least got informed a little bit on the subject before they talk nonsense.

[Impia]

I am aware of the logistics involved with becoming a "multi owner." I am aware of the financial investment and the fact that the person doing so has to bid on each plot they obtain. I am also aware of the fact that this is only possible during certain windows of time when plots are first released and then over longer periods of time when they appear. The former is an opportunity that very few players will have access to, especially not new players, and the latter is still one person who already has their plot taking the opportunity to win plots from the thousands of players who would love to own just one. Anyone with access to these resources and these opportunities could be a multi owner, it's not representative of hard work. If you really believe that anyone with that opportunity would just wave it off because they didn't feel like doing the work you're out of your mind.

[NanaWiloh]

ugh my brain keeps want to reading the title of the thread as "Housing needs to be account bias" lol

[Stormpeaks]

I am aware of the logistics involved with becoming a "multi owner." I am aware of the financial investment and the fact that the person doing so has to bid on each plot they obtain. I am also aware of the fact that this is only possible during certain windows of time when plots are first released and then over longer periods of time when they appear. The former is an opportunity that very few players will have access to, especially not new players, and the latter is still one person who already has their plot taking the opportunity to win plots from the thousands of players who would love to own just one. Anyone with access to these resources and these opportunities could be a multi owner, it's not representative of hard work. If you really believe that anyone with that opportunity would just wave it off because they didn't feel like doing the work you're out of your mind.

bro is on dynamis and is still here talking about multiowners taking people's plots when there's literally thousands of plots that no one wants

[NanaWiloh]

bro is on dynamis and is still here talking about multiowners taking people's plots when there's literally thousands of plots that no one wants

There is like 6+ mediums open here on Lamia at least there was last night. And there is a truck load of smalls open enough I have not bothered to even count them.

[Jojoya]

I am aware of the logistics involved with becoming a "multi owner." I am aware of the financial investment and the fact that the person doing so has to bid on each plot they obtain. I am also aware of the fact that this is only possible during certain windows of time when plots are first released and then over longer periods of time when they appear. The former is an opportunity that very few players will have access to, especially not new players, and the latter is still one person who already has their plot taking the opportunity to win plots from the thousands of players who would love to own just one. Anyone with access to these resources and these opportunities could be a multi owner, it's not representative of hard work. If you really believe that anyone with that opportunity would just wave it off because they didn't feel like doing the work you're out of your mind.

And there are thousands of available plots for those thousands of players trying to get their first house.

The problem is that those houses are not located on worlds where the house hunters exist and the house hunters aren't interested in moving.

That's how the multi-owners are enabled. In most cases, they're buying the houses that other players weren't willing to purchase. If other players had been actively trying to purchase those houses, the multi-owners wouldn't have been able to acquire most of them.

I understand your feeling about wanting available houses reserved for future players but that's in SE's hands. They're capable of doing it. They've already done it on the worlds added to the game since the start of 2022. They all have 6 wards in each housing district that are not available to buyers at this time. That's another 23,000+ plots in addition to all the other plots still available. It's up to SE to decide it's time to make those houses available (which will probably be after the Xbox beta starts depending on how many players it attracts).

It's still not going to do anything unless players who want a house to go the worlds with the available plots instead of staying on the overcrowded worlds where everything has been purchased so buyers are limited to the occasional abandoned plot.

[Impia]

You act as though Dynamis is going to be a ghost town forever. People will eventually populate the server, and the problem will perpetuate because the houses they as individuals could have bid on are now instead being overtaken by shell FCs created by entitled cringelords. You can't pretend that this isn't the end result of your mentality.

[TabrisOmbrelame]

You act as though Dynamis is going to be a ghost town forever. People will eventually populate the server, and the problem will perpetuate because the houses they as individuals could have bid on are now instead being overtaken by shell FCs created by entitled cringelords. You can't pretend that this isn't the end result of your mentality.

This kind of behavior isn't exactly against the rule nowaday.

They make account for this, they have to create a Lvl 6 FC with at least 30 days old. And they have to make the money to get a house. But even before all those restriction, that mean Millions and Millions of gils to reach something like this.

Is it against the rule ? No. Cause now, player who try to do the same will have to pay One account for at least 2 house. So for 30 house, you have to pay 15 accounts. Which will easily go over 100$ (I'm sorry, I'm not in the US, so I don't know how much it is for you, but in € it will be something like 150€ per month, just to keep up all those house.)

Is it morally correct to do that ? Probably not. Because you are bound to make a whole bunch of player angry.

It's a matter of fact that once you have your "Third" house, you may have an advantage on the crops you try grow against other player who own house from "regular" mean

To put it simply, let's admit that you have 2 Large House (One of your FC, and one on your own). You have 6 farms which contains 8 plots each, for a total of 48 crops. (Counting like this : 8 for Small house, 16 for Medium and 24 for Large).

Now let's take the "worst" case, a player who own every 30 house of a sector, this means, that player will have something like : 20 Small, 6 Medium, 3 Large. For a total of 41 farm, which goes up to 328 Crops available.

A player like that can produce 280 Crops more than you will do everyday (Let's assume you make the same crops).

In your eyes, and pretty much the rest of the community, this will be unfair. But the player who bought all those house will say "I did a whole bunch of effort to get there", and won't see that as a problem.

Again, those guys didn't cheat (Or at least, we have to prove it, so Innocent until proven Guilty). That's sad, but that's how it is. And unless Square Enix is really going to track all of those player down and compensate for their loss, nothing will change. (I'm pretty sure they won't do it anyway.)