Paladin Skill Count Question

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

I have to disagree with merging Requiescat and Confiteor. oGCD into a GCD action is clunky af. We already have Bunshin in Phantom Kamaitachi on ninja, and it feels awful in the opener, so rather pass tbh. Might sound good on paper for the idea, but execution will be awful, especially since you often Fight or Flight into Requiscat, you will clip a GCD with this merge.

If I recall, they did mention there would be more reworked on Paladin in 7.0, but honestly they can drop Shield Bash and Cover at the very least, none of the other tanks have access to them, so skills aren't exactly in the necessity category as far as actions go, they are super niche use skills anyways.

[Rongway]

I have to disagree with merging Requiescat and Confiteor. oGCD into a GCD action is clunky af. We already have Bunshin in Phantom Kamaitachi on ninja, and it feels awful in the opener, so rather pass tbh. Might sound good on paper for the idea, but execution will be awful, especially since you often Fight or Flight into Requiscat, you will clip a GCD with this merge.

This only feels bad on NIN because of its 2.2s GCD which drops to 2.1s with gear. It wouldn't be a problem on a 2.5s GCD job.

[Absurdity]

This only feels bad on NIN because of its 2.2s GCD which drops to 2.1s with gear. It wouldn't be a problem on a 2.5s GCD job.

That does however assume that Paladin will always stay a 0 skill/spellspeed job.

[Rithy255]

I have to disagree with merging Requiescat and Confiteor. oGCD into a GCD action is clunky af. We already have Bunshin in Phantom Kamaitachi on ninja, and it feels awful in the opener, so rather pass tbh. Might sound good on paper for the idea, but execution will be awful, especially since you often Fight or Flight into Requiscat, you will clip a GCD with this merge.

If I recall, they did mention there would be more reworked on Paladin in 7.0, but honestly they can drop Shield Bash and Cover at the very least, none of the other tanks have access to them, so skills aren't exactly in the necessity category as far as actions go, they are super niche use skills anyways.

I don't think we should just drop cover personally, I know cover has it's issues but a lot of that can be changed and made better (even if it stays a bit niche)
Shield Bash? if its kept in its current state I rather it be outright removed but I Think it should replace intervene doing ogcd damage (can also do a cone stun for aoe), while your gap closer can become a Non damaging one that you can also charge to allies.

I think honestly you can rework/change a lot of PLD without removing the "niche" abilities of PLD, Personally I just want cover, shield bash and clemency to have more uses and adjustments to how they work.

I'd only want them to start "removing" or merging abilities (such as holy spirit becoming a cleave and holy sheltron/intervention merged) if they want to start making more abilities for PLD (I personally really want two combo finishers at least back personally.