We need a second smol race

[LioJen]

Male: Child/baby (lala), young adult/athletic with angry hands (Miq), average (Hyur), tall and skinny (Elezen), tall and athletic/muscular (Au Ra), tall and athletic/skinny (Viera), tall and bodybuilder (Roe), tall and extra muscular and furry (Hroth)

Males don't even get a short and petite/slim option. They COULD have made Viera males that (which would have fit their lore), but they...didn't. Instead they made some combination of Hyur/Miq with bunny ears instead of cat ears and angry hands.

Miqote are short and slim. Not sure how you gloss that over as "young adult". They start at 5'2", the height of your average 10-year-old, and have no muscle mass. Considering how many players in this game go max height, a minimum height Miqo male comes up to most other males' waist.

[Renathras]

Miqote are short and slim. Not sure how you gloss that over as "young adult". They start at 5'2", the height of your average 10-year-old, and have no muscle mass. Considering how many players in this game go max height, a minimum height Miqo male comes up to most other males' waist.

Just so you know, there are non-dwarf males that are shorter than 5'2".

And no, they aren't slim with no muscle mass. Male miq are like high school athletes. The dudes are pretty shredded. Not to go into great anatomical detail, but their chests are built enough the dividing line goes up to their collarbone, and this is already more muscle mass than your average irl male has these days, they also have pretty sharply defined delts, bicepts, and tris, that are clearly visible AND larger than the average irl male, as well as having very clearly visible striations. They have low body fat to contribute to that, but also pretty visible muscle that makes them slightly more muscular than your average male adult in modern society at their level of body fat (bigger dudes often have more muscle, but also more fat; somewhat more like Hroths, maybe?)

No, males do not have the option. Contrast the female Miq with the female Au Ra. What do males have that corresponds to the female Au Ra?

Oh, right: Nothing.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Just so you know, there are non-dwarf males that are shorter than 5'2".

And no, they aren't slim with no muscle mass. Male miq are like high school athletes. The dudes are pretty shredded. Not to go into great anatomical detail, but their chests are built enough the dividing line goes up to their collarbone, and this is already more muscle mass than your average irl male has these days, they also have pretty sharply defined delts, bicepts, and tris, that are clearly visible AND larger than the average irl male, as well as having very clearly visible striations. They have low body fat to contribute to that, but also pretty visible muscle that makes them slightly more muscular than your average male adult in modern society at their level of body fat (bigger dudes often have more muscle, but also more fat; somewhat more like Hroths, maybe?)

No, males do not have the option. Contrast the female Miq with the female Au Ra. What do males have that corresponds to the female Au Ra?

Oh, right: Nothing.

There are very few games that allow me to make a male character with a physical build like I have IRL.

167cm
52kg
Not skin and bones. Just an extremely lean and toned muscle mass.

Also often mistaken for a middle school or highschool kid despite being 42 years old... -.-

[Boblawblah]

There are very few games that allow me to make a male character with a physical build like I have IRL.

167cm
52kg
Not skin and bones. Just an extremely lean and toned muscle mass.

Also often mistaken for a middle school or highschool kid despite being 42 years old... -.-

Why do people always gotta get super weird..?

[RitsukoSonoda]

Why do people always gotta get super weird..?

If the majority is weird then what does that make the normal people?

[ForsakenRoe]

No, males do not have the option. Contrast the female Miq with the female Au Ra. What do males have that corresponds to the female Au Ra?

Oh, right: Nothing.

Which is why SE should have not done the weird dimorphism for the Au Ra. White scales Au Ra, both male and female, could have been how the females currently are, cutesy 5'3ish tall and demure in their animations. Then the black scales Au Ra could be how the males currently are, tall, fierce, imposing looking. Like the 'warrior nomad tribes' they're meant to be in the lore, with animations that are more befitting their backstory. Like that one infamous concept art picture. It infuriates me that you can make a 1:1 copy of Sadu, for example, but you cannot copy her mannerisms, because the game forces you as a female Au Ra to have such cutesy animations like you're a character from a highschool slice of life anime. That's fine for the Raen, but it doesn't really mesh in my mind very well with the backstory for the Xaela.

It'd be like the split between Mid and Highlander, where there's actual differences between the two, instead of it mostly being 'what colour palette do you want to have for the skin tones'