Most Important Dawntrail Change to Keep me in FFXIV

[SieyaM]

I really doubt the 2 minute meta is going anywhere, so we can already predict with a frightening amount of accuracy how the new jobs will play. It really dampens the hype for new jobs and even new abilities for existing jobs. They will probably be some new oGCD or something just kind of hanging off the original rotation without changing anything about the 2 minute burst or how you build to it.

[Jeeqbit]

the lack of actual healing that healers engage with

It is the single most important thing to me in FFXIV that this feedback be addressed.

So was the change in Abyssos where they increased the amount of healing not enough? I'm not a healer main so I honestly don't know.

It has become clear to me that there is no job in FFXIV currently that truly makes me happy and makes me enjoy the game the way Scholar used to.

I do agree that Scholar's damage is a bit too samey. Broil spam + Energy Drain, Energy Drain, Energy Drain, Aetherflow, Energy Drain, Energy Drain, Energy Drain, Dissipation, Energy Drain, Energy Drain, Energy Drain.

What affects it is that Chain Strategem is just a debuff. If it was replaced with attacks it would add just a slight bit more variety to Scholar's attacks.

If this criticism is not addressed by Dawntrail, I am considering leaving FFXIV for good.

I suppose we will see in the third fanfest and the Media Tour a month before release, but so far there hasn't been an indication, other than the general comment that a lot of jobs will get extensive changes.

There are many of you who may think my reaction is extreme

Not really, many people think that, play less or quit because of it. I think SE is actually content for players to just subscribe for MSQ. I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be like that, it just seems like they are content with it and aren't preoccupied with keeping you playing indefinitely like WoW and other MMORPGs.

That's why everyone who sticks around makes their own content out of being a completionist, achievement hunting, mount hunting, hunts, roleplaying, old content or social FC events be they RP or content.

[ty_taurus]

So was the change in Abyssos where they increased the amount of healing not enough? I'm not a healer main so I honestly don't know.

Abyssos' healing difficulty was short-lived and more a result of the surprise to seeing the healing requirements increase at all when it seems like Shadowbringers and Endwalker have done everything they can to make healers heal less. But even if Abyssos was enough to make healing fun there, that's only four fights. I want healing to be fun in the entire game, something I felt was true of Scholar and Astrologian before Shadowbringers. I'm not interested in the "just play savage/ultimate" argument. I want to love healers whether I'm soloing the MSQ, farming treasure maps, running Eureka/Bozja, doing roulettes, progging savage, or grinding out bicolor gems. And that's just not true of healers in these last two expansions.

The point of a game is to have fun. I want "healing is fun." No caveats. No 'ifs'. just "healing is fun" period.

Not really, many people think that, play less or quit because of it. I think SE is actually content for players to just subscribe for MSQ. I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be like that, it just seems like they are content with it and aren't preoccupied with keeping you playing indefinitely like WoW and other MMORPGs.

I don't really see what that has to do with my feedback particularly. Job design is a separate discussion to repeatable content.

[Jeeqbit]

I don't really see what that has to do with my feedback particularly. Job design is a separate discussion to repeatable content.

I was referring to

If this criticism is not addressed by Dawntrail, I am considering leaving FFXIV for good. This is not an overnight decision, but the result of years of fatigue of playing the game and constantly yearning for something that isn't there anymore. This has soured my experience in PVE content, and if Dawntrail does nothing to address those long-standing concerns, I am debating either playing only for the story and then immediately unsubbing

[Turtledeluxe]

The argument that there's new players or whatever that outweigh OP is pretty ridiculous considering XIV has how many classes? And it takes a grand total of 2 per role to potentially diversify gameplay....thankfully Yoshi P has players who will excuse him for just steamrolling all healers and not even having one to perhaps address these complaints?

[ty_taurus]

I was referring to

Then perhaps I should abandon the game completely instead. There are other games with great stories and fun gameplay. As much as I want to still be a part of this game, perhaps it's better for me to end my involvement entirely if even me playing through the 7.0 story is enough of a success for them.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I agree with most of your points but that last one is a bit too dramatic. Nobody is going to care if you leave so dont bother trying to state it because Yoshida isnt going to magically look at your post and change EVERYTHING because that somehow touched him.

But I do believe that Dawntrail will most likely be less of a success than Endwalker and a lot of people are going to leave. Maybe then the dev team will get that wake up call and start making changes. Its like what Baderon says in the beginning, "on rough seas, sometimes you have to rock the boat to right it". And now that World of Warcraft is starting to get ambitious with their next expansions, I want that spirit of competition to make the devs to start doing a lot better.

[ty_taurus]

I agree with most of your points but that last one is a bit too dramatic. Nobody is going to care if you leave so dont bother trying to state it because Yoshida isnt going to magically look at your post and change EVERYTHING because that somehow touched him.

When did I say that was what I expect to happen?

[Jeeqbit]

I do believe that Dawntrail will most likely be less of a success than Endwalker and a lot of people are going to leave. Maybe then the dev team will get that wake up call and start making changes. Its like what Baderon says in the beginning, "on rough seas, sometimes you have to rock the boat to right it". And now that World of Warcraft is starting to get ambitious with their next expansions, I want that spirit of competition to make the devs to start doing a lot better.

I believe a lot of people who have left will return for Dawntrail. Because many of the people leaving have said they would, even if it was just to do MSQ or to see if anything changed. So let's be honest, it's a bit of a WoW situation where people will say they are quitting but then just keep returning anyway.

People may quit for the first time in Dawntrail, sure and many have said they probably will. But whether that will actually be noticeable in the grand scheme of things is not really set in stone, because as I have said in other threads, statistically new players and returners just replace them at the moment.

I will be judging "success" on if Lucky Bancho's stats are consistently higher than the same points in Endwalker long after the initial release.

[Sebazy]

A few days ago I thought I might have gotten myself forum banned again over the reshade wireframe hand and foot model pics.

Nope, I just hadn't actually logged into the game for weeks.

Enough said really.