SGE/RPR feedback thread crosspost

[Renathras]

Then the issue is that we didn't actually get a new healer, we got 'a healer we already have, but with the clunk addressed', in which case, why did we need to add SGE, instead of just making SCH have less clunk in its kit directly?

Honestly, no idea. I'm kind of with Ty that they probably initially were designing SGE to be more like the PvP version but, late in development, decided not to for some reason and kind of scrambled for the nearest exit and made "a better SCH" kind of by accident more than by intent. It's just a hypothesis, but seems reasonable.

What people seem to like about it is that it's smooth and not really clunky, which is the opposite of what most people who pine for SB healers want. In a way, or perhaps an ideal (*cough*4healers*cough*) world, they'd have made SGE and shfited SCH away from what it is back to what it was to appeal to both groups. Both those that like what SCH has become (SGE) and those why liked what it used to be (SCH). Of course, they didn't, so...who even knows. But the end result is that SGE seems to be broadly popular.

While this will doubtless fly over your head again, you are not the only person who is appreciative of how Reddit can upvote or down/vote comments, and indeed I (and probably others in this thread) did not simply count votes, but (gasp) actually read the comments as well - even all the way down.

Shocking, isn't it, that we aren't as shallow as you think?

When I say people attack me, this is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

I can only reply to what you posted - which was you mentioning the most liked posts based on number of likes - not what you may have done...but didn't say in your post. I can't reply to what you didn't say:

Check out the highest voted post. at 111 up-votes, it out-weighs all of what I would consider as clearly positive vote (e.g. I love sage, sage is 10/10, buttery smooth)

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Agreed, there are also positive ones , looking at them quickly I found three that totalled up to about 75.

So a quick review would tell me that it's not so much a "so many people are happy" but that it's a mixed bag. Yes, some people do like Sage, and some really like Sage, but a significant amount, possibly a majority, have issues with Sage. It's not what they expected, they may like some aspects, however they want to changes.

Note the parts I emphasized with underlines. You talk about counting the votes, and then "a quick review" and "looking at them quickly"; quick review/looking at them quickly doesn't mean "read all the replies in the thread".

You can't fault me for having the wrong take on your post when your post itself presents things that way.

[IDontPetLalas]

Honestly, no idea. I'm kind of with Ty that they probably initially were designing SGE to be more like the PvP version but, late in development, decided not to for some reason and kind of scrambled for the nearest exit and made "a better SCH" kind of by accident more than by intent. It's just a hypothesis, but seems reasonable.

What people seem to like about it is that it's smooth and not really clunky, which is the opposite of what most people who pine for SB healers want. In a way, or perhaps an ideal (*cough*4healers*cough*) world, they'd have made SGE and shfited SCH away from what it is back to what it was to appeal to both groups. Both those that like what SCH has become (SGE) and those why liked what it used to be (SCH). Of course, they didn't, so...who even knows. But the end result is that SGE seems to be broadly popular.



When I say people attack me, this is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

I can only reply to what you posted - which was you mentioning the most liked posts based on number of likes - not what you may have done...but didn't say in your post. I can't reply to what you didn't say:



Note the parts I emphasized with underlines. You talk about counting the votes, and then "a quick review" and "looking at them quickly"; quick review/looking at them quickly doesn't mean "read all the replies in the thread".


You can't fault me for having the wrong take on your post when your post itself presents things that way.

So your natural assumption was that 'quick' necessitated incomplete or cursory review? I see, no it was quick as in "the actual time spent", but not incomplete. You can count upvotes based upon your rather dubious interpretation of how the feedback was on that thread, or you can tally up each post, however "the end result is that SGE seems to be broadly popular' is only partially telling the truth, it would be at least equally, if not more accurate, to say that many people are disappointed with multiple aspects of Sage.

[Renathras]

So your natural assumption was that 'quick' necessitated incomplete or cursory review? I see, no it was quick as in "the actual time spent", but not incomplete. You can count upvotes based upon your rather dubious interpretation of how the feedback was on that thread, or you can tally up each post, however "the end result is that SGE seems to be broadly popular' is only partially telling the truth, it would be at least equally, if not more accurate, to say that many people are disappointed with multiple aspects of Sage.

/sigh

No. Just no.

This reads like you made a statement, I correctly replied, then you wanted to take a dig at me, and I correctly pointed out you were incorrect to do so, and instead of backing down, you try to defend the incorrect dig.

Say whatever you want, I'm not going to bother with that kind of stupidity.

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To the point on the end:

It would be more accurate to say "SGE is broadly popular (would rate above a 5.0 overall), but many people are disappointed with various aspects of SGE while many people are also very satisfied with various aspects of SGE." Your take is a "glass half empty" one.