You're a Disgrace

[Baxcel]

Seems like the King/Queen Bean title will be another mark of shame like PvP mounts or titles.. everyone will just assume you cheated even if you didn't..

[Theodric]

I don't disagree, though cheating using mods has been a problem for years and I doubt that the development team are going to do anything to stop it since a large portion of the game's community make use of mods rather openly if you check what comes up on Twitter when you search for FFXIV there.

It's become pretty brazen and too big a problem to address without snuffing out a major source of revenue. I'm sure Yoshi-P is well aware that many people playing FFXIV do not actually want to play the game without heavily altering it at this point.

At most there might be an official statement pushed out that urges people not to do it, amounting to the verbal equivalent of a slap on the wrist.

[Bonoki]

Seems like the King/Queen Bean title will be another mark of shame like PvP mounts or titles.. everyone will just assume you cheated even if you didn't..

Its mostly a mark of shame in PvP if you have more multiple seasons worth of rewards. Especially with the increasing amount of cheaters it becomes harder to believe that you came out on top multiple times against cheaters without cheating yourself. If you have one reward though, it's easier to believe you sincerely grinded hard and got really lucky.

[Oizen]

No need for plugins when just queueing when a new instance spawns gives you a solo lobby

[PredatoryCatgirl]

Can we at least acknowledge that there's a huge difference between using an addon to change how your glam looks or add in a timer for your garden, versus allowing you to cheat at raids or a PvP event?

[Jojoya]

I'm starting to wonder if this is one of the main reasons that MMOs are slowly dying in popularity.

Those who prefer to play by the rules are getting tired of playing games with cheaters and feeling pressured to cheat themselves because of the unfair advantages that cheating offers.

Cheaters getting tired of being harassed over cheating in "just a game" when they can go to a single player game and cheat as much as they want without comment.

Personally, I don't see the point of cheating because it's just an admission that you can't achieve things through your own efforts. I also rolleyes at those who use the "I just cheat through the boring parts" excuse. If it's boring, why are you even playing? Do things that aren't boring instead.

Most of all, I don't let the actions of cheaters bother me. Dumb people are going to do dumb things. No point in getting upset over it.

[Stormpeaks]

I only won 3 times since the event released

I know I'm a disgrace you didnt have to put a thread title like that

jesus man

I'm doing my best okay



I'm trying !

Lol @ the "cheaters bad !!!" part by the way, if literally everyone decide to cheat the system, then maybe the system is terrible in itself

also the "worst" these people are doing is to queue into solo lobbies

oh no the drama, people getting wins !!!

it's almost like the netcode and server tick are both ruining this event and any fun that comes with it

who would have thought ?

[Silverquick]

I didn't even know there were Mods outside of Parcers and those Glamer changers or whatever.

But then again I don't do PvP.

[Hyperia]

At most there might be an official statement pushed out that urges people not to do it, amounting to the verbal equivalent of a slap on the wrist.

I think they have given up asking nicely and I believe they have already transitioned to the acceptance phase.

[Sindele]

They can't get banned, but it doesn't matter. All Square Enix needs to do is mandate that their official launcher is used instead of XIVLauncher. Make sure that no third-party programs can authenticate the login. All of these plugins are only becoming wildly popular because of the launcher, including the Fall Guys one. Cheating would still exist but not be nearly as prevalent, and it would be non-intrusive to normal players. The quality of the game culture would improve overnight.

Of course, Square Enix won't do that either. Why would they? It's Square Enix. Who cares as long as the game prints money?

Or because what you've just proposed is a problem somewhere between nightmarishly difficult and outright impossible while completely failing to solve the problem you think it solves.

SE's failure continues to be its complete refusal to invest in proper moderation for a worldwide audience. This is another facet of a very old problem coming home to roost, just like the server capacity debacles during COVID were. The most cost-effective way to deal with cheating is to produce a culture of unpredictable fear by doing the brute-force work of monitoring the tools space, figuring out where activity is growing, and then bundling up groups of people pushing it too far and knocking them all off in one fell swoop.

It's a well-worn strategy for a reason - fighting at the zero tolerance level is ridiculously expensive, ridiculously intrusive, and largely unnecessary particularly in the MMO space. Do it anything less than perfectly, and, well... remember when there was ransomware vectored through Genshin's kernel anti-cheat? (Which did very little in terms of productively stopping cheating in the first place?)

E: Also, the final stage could be pretty much autorun to victory from day zero. Very, very predictable once you understand the delays. Some of this definitely strikes me as reminiscent of the CC cheating screamfests - one twitter video of someone cheating was all every permabronze player needed to justify every match loss they ever experienced.