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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    You keep believing in that trash company though. They need your dollars. I wouldn't give them a penny.
    Do you mean Activision/Blizzard? Perhaps just Blizzard itself? Or perhaps you meant Riot Games? Ubisoft? NetherRealm? Gearbox? The entire gaming industry in part and in whole?

    Or is the definition of "trash" not related in any shape or form to sexual harassment, but based on something else entirely? The poster is unclear, so one may only attempt to guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Do you mean Activision/Blizzard? Perhaps just Blizzard itself? Or perhaps you meant Riot Games? Ubisoft? NetherRealm? Gearbox? The entire gaming industry in part and in whole?

    Or is the definition of "trash" not related in any shape or form to sexual harassment, but based on something else entirely? The poster is unclear, so one may only attempt to guess.
    Does it matter? Are you actually going to try to defend Blizzard? The company is a repulsive cesspool. I guess you missed all the big reveals over the last couple years. Pushing an employee to suicide, drinking employee breast milk, cube crawling etc. Lots of acts of perversion that the highest levels of the company were aware of but ignored. Disgusting company. I will never give them a penny. If you want to defend them go for it. I wouldn't give that company a life raft if it was drowning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Does it matter?
    You realize the post was asking for updated features like WoW has being implemented similarly into FF14, and not the workplace practices of Blizzard being put into effect at Squareenix, right?

    Did you just see the words Wow/Blizzard and just start foaming at the mouth or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    With features like cross realm guilds and cross realm mythic raiding, transmog(glamour) restrictions being lifted(all classes can wear all armor), cross realm grouping, account unlocks galore, and etc.

    While in this game, none of those features exist. Sure, we have cross realm link shells and communities, but they are limited to your DC.

    I think going forward, we need something. Because at this rate, World of Warcraft is looking far, far more appealing. We have worse flying now, glamour systems, free companies, endgame progression(I would imagine it's still an rng clown fiesta, but accessibility is why I said it cross realm mythic raiding etc.), and casual progression since it sounds like Wow is actually making criterion the right way, storage systems, and much more.

    As someone currently playing both, this is a very apples to oranges comparison. They are very different games (presumably on the backend as well) and I wouldn't want most of those features in FFXIV.

    The "everything is cross everything" stuff works in WoW because that game nuked any sense of community long, long ago. When the world is a glorified CoD lobby, sure, connect everything, who cares. One aspect that drew me to FFXIV initially was that server communities were still a thing and I would hate to see it go down the same road as WoW.

    The Warband functionality is great for WoW, but there's little reason to make an alt in the first place in FFXIV since you can do everything on the same character. It would be nice for those that do, sure, but it's not the very pressing issue that it is in WoW.

    FFXIV glam working like WoW transmog would be great, but Yoship has already explained in detail why that isn't possible for the time being from a technical perspective. That's probably something they return to once in a while behind the scenes to see if they can make it work.

    Dragonriding is obnoxious so I can't say I agree with "worse flying."

    If WoW is looking "far, far more appealing" to you, it sounds like WoW may be more your bag. Nothing wrong with that. Playing both concurrently certainly cemented that I much prefer FFXIV. I don't think asking one to turn into the other is doing justice to either. People should just play whichever suits their fancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    If you want to defend them go for it. I wouldn't give that company a life raft if it was drowning.
    Nice attitude. Do you have a similar attitude toward the other companies I mentioned? Will you look at the new MMORPG announced by Riot games, knowing they paid a 10 million dollar fine in California for similar practices? Do you have similar feelings of disgust for the company that owned Call of Duty? [Hint: Activision owned both properties. The "highest levels of the company" was Activision.]

    Similar practices appear rampant across the entire gaming industry. Will you stop playing games?

    Or will you encourage gaming companies to get their act together and reward them with a second look when they do?

    Hatred is such a temporary solution. Changes in management is much better for everyone. And look -- Activision was sold off to another company. Admittedly one that has issues (remember: entire gaming industry), but one that may do better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Does it matter? Are you actually going to try to defend Blizzard? The company is a repulsive cesspool. I guess you missed all the big reveals over the last couple years. Pushing an employee to suicide, drinking employee breast milk, cube crawling etc. Lots of acts of perversion that the highest levels of the company were aware of but ignored. Disgusting company. I will never give them a penny. If you want to defend them go for it. I wouldn't give that company a life raft if it was drowning.
    No one sane defends Blizzard. If Blizzard says "Yeah, the sky is blue." I'm not going to take an opposing position just to SPITE them. I already am never going to buy another Blizzard product. Obviously, Blizzard is bad, you don't need overdramatic, pointless rhetoric to get that point across, it's right there in the court documentation and their litany of disappointments.

    But I'm not gonna plug my ears to objective improvements that are implemented in the general field because, and this may be a shock, bad companies can have good ideas. Good things, regardless of where they are from, should be shared, so standards across the industry are raised. This is a topic about features in a product, not about public relations and human debasement. Rising tide, all boats. To think otherwise, is petty. Software is not a disease or virus. If you mix concepts and take inspirations, it doesn't automatically infect development staff and ruin the entire product.

    If I boycott Nestle, do I have to stop drinking water? If I find the practices of Ford immoral, do I have to scrap my own car? If I hate the crunch that developers and artists go through in this corporate nightmare, do I stop enjoying all video games and art? No. You'd cut off your own nose to spite your face.

    Why is everything always full throttle antagonism with you people?
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    From past AccountWide/Alt Friendly Topics.

    As I have compared it to before.
    It's a Tide that raises all boats.

    We can have implementation that benefits not only Multi-Alt(Character Players), but also Single Character Players.

    What Do Players with multiple alts do, they play the game far more often than single character players who've had their fill of content on one character.
    What does that do to your statistics and Numbers?
    It increases the Potential amount of roulettes being filled for sprouts to progress, keeps them running old content for their alts.

    While it won't be for everyone, changes in different sectors of the game directed to single character users benefit alt users.

    Let's talk Gearing, if Gearing is improved in its rate and way of obtaining gear. Even more so, BiS/Mix and match. Allowing players to gear other jobs easier allows Alts to get geared much faster as well, thus a percentage of the content not only being run more frequently increases.

    Could Mention Glamour, but that almost ties into achievements.
    With AccWide Achievements and Single character achievements.
    Things can be split up in order to incentive players who wish to play more with an alt.
    Say Relics being less taxing on an Alt.
    <Zetas only Pretty Once.> (Said the Full Zeta)
    Which tbh, the large Lifetime Achievements should be accountwide. Like the Hunt, or the excessively huge ones where only a small number will ever achieve.
    How glamour fits into all that, is also causing the market place to continue production of old materials, and crafts. as it'll be needed for Glamour Logs/Book interactivity with Dresser/Plate/Armoire.

    Other ideas could be implemented, that inadvertently helps both type of players.
    [And gives long requested features to be implemented. as a Glamour System Update could affect Genderlocks, or Role Locks.]

    <The only really valid points some have given are the points where they don't ever really care to have another character(cause of the difficulty or interest). Or Simply Not understanding/being at a point which it becomes of interest to them.>
    [Which all said, is fair of the individuals, yet doesn't change a single thing of the requests.]


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    [also, could have accwide achievements, be toggled on and off, for those who use the weak excuse of. ThAt ChArAczteR DiDnT EaRn it. Happy that the RP isn't ruined, when they could just not use it?.]
    But what about MONEY, The Store..,

    Well. simple economics, what do shop's and stores do.
    What do Manufacturers in reality do.

    Sell Bulk in enticing ways, but drain you as much as possible with single servings.
    SE will get some value out of it.

    If the Mogstore was largely account wide except for the Single Serving items, like dyes/fantasia, I'd probably own the majority of their stock by now.

    The mogmail would get flooded?
    Who's bright idea was to have it sent via a limited access inventory when they have a perfectly acceptable Calamity Salvager System.
    Just have a Similar NPC you have to head to in order to access your purchased goods, doesn't clog the mail for stuff like items between FListed Players, and never fades away from their unlocks.
    Like, Idk Quest Rewards, like the customer or special items you can reclaim from the early arr quests, or past role weapons.

    Not only helps current shoppers but old shoppers and new ones as well.
    (could have a note after/before/during purchase of the locations they can claim their Purchases.)

    [Systems change over time, even if it's been past the planned lifetime of a game. They can make changes. if they didn't want another 10 years, we wouldn't be getting a "First Graphical Update"]
    As for Pricing, simply have those who learn late that they prefer to have more than one character feel the brunt of it with a slightly costly price. while accwide option is larger but Fire and Forget. We can argue the exact cost til the next 10 years pass. but Accwide should be standard.
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    Wow and FF14 server infrastructures are not the same. Wows infrastructure is why its able to do some of the things it does. Things FF14 cant do unless it swaps to a similar structure.
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    Blizzard has to make things account wide because players need to make alts in order to play more than one class. That isn't necessary here.

    SE has been chipping away at cross world/data access. They've acknowledged that cross data center PF and Duty Finder are needed but their technology currently doesn't support them but they'll continue to make efforts to find a solution. Data center travel at least helps with some of the problems in the meantime.

    Let WoW be WoW. Let FFXIV be FFXIV. If you think WoW is offering you a better game than FFXIV, then you probably should be playing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Does it matter? Are you actually going to try to defend Blizzard? The company is a repulsive cesspool. I guess you missed all the big reveals over the last couple years. Pushing an employee to suicide, drinking employee breast milk, cube crawling etc. Lots of acts of perversion that the highest levels of the company were aware of but ignored. Disgusting company. I will never give them a penny. If you want to defend them go for it. I wouldn't give that company a life raft if it was drowning.
    That was the past. Most if not all of those complicit are no longer working for Blizzard, new management has come in and made changes that will hopefully prevent those things from happening again.

    Punishing people for the sins committed by others in the past is a poor way to promote change for the better. If you're just going to keep punishing them, there is no reason to change.

    If you choose not to do business with Blizzard, do it because you don't enjoy the products they make and not because of what some former employees did years ago.
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    Won't happen.

    SE actively profits from the systems being broken or in the state they are currently in, so they have no incentive to fix them or make them better.

    Glamour/mounts/etc. being limited to one per character = people buy more stuff from the cash shop.
    Broken housing = people forced to stay subscribed (not many how many times YoshiP says to play other games, it's not how this game works if you have a house.)
    Inventory management being bad in all the various ways = people buy retainers.

    Imo, anything said otherwise for why they can't do something related to these is just an excuse because they don't want to just flat out say it's a business decision. Rightfully so. It'd be a horribly unpopular thing to say.
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