Insane gear ilvl requirement for the lvl 60 alliance roulette

[Toutatis]

ya, but even the the lowest lvl 70 mb-gear is 320 already. You are not supposed to wear lvl 50 or 60 gear to run 70 content..
the super-easy-to-get lvl 70 tomegear is ilvl 400 even. The requirement is anything but high, its the lowest of lowest possible to not entirely grief your partymembers

If you haven’t finished Stormblood and have reached level 70+ you can’t do level 70 content anyway. The content you can do is tied to MSQ progress. The highest raids such player can unlock, even if they were in lvl 90 crafted Diachonos (640) gear are still only level 60 raids. You don’t grief anyone by not having lvl 70+ gear in that case. Level 60 gear with appropriate iLvl to run raids that can be at most lvl 60 should be sufficient. It has nothing to do with iLvl cheese where a player who was lvl 90 at the end of EW with various raids unlocked could strip down to get a quick CT.

In this game, both the content and the gear are locked behind MSQ progress so that “ super-easy-to-get lvl 70 tomegear” cannot be accessed before the end of Stormblood (at which time, they’ll probably already be level 80+ so locked out again).

You are absolutely correct. The crux of many's argument is basically "I feel entitled to run this roulette despite my job being overlevelled".

It is now pretty much impossible to not over level these days and on preferred worlds it’s even worse.

In the meantime, one can be lvl 90 in full BiS 660 gear and only have CT unlocked. I’d rather team up with a lvl 90 who still hasn’t finished EW and is not in iLvl 565 gear but has all level <=80 raids unlocked + level 80 appropriate gear.

At this point if they tie roulette access strictly based on level regardless of MSQ progress, they should make the first set of tome gear of each expansion available in the 3 main cities once a player has reached the corresponding job level. Still, that makes every other gear you get just playing the game as you progress MSQ useless. Ideally they should have a check on MSQ progress on top of the job level one.

[ServerCollaps]

even when you are a overleveld newcomer.. you can make use of ff14 being an mmorpg... get a guild/friends and have them craft you some items, if you dont have the 100k for green mb gear. I dont see any issues here

[ICountFrom0]

So what was the point of posting in the first place?

To cause drama, fear, and misunderstanding
To try to cause outrage, so that they can get people complaining, so they can go back to running crystal tower?

[shadowclasper]

Do... do the people complaining about gearing not know that you can generally get everything you need with poetics? You don't even have to search really hard, there's a splendors vendor with the appropriate gear at the hub for the expansion of each alliance raid and these -include- accessory buys.

[Jojoya]

Do... do the people complaining about gearing not know that you can generally get everything you need with poetics? You don't even have to search really hard, there's a splendors vendor with the appropriate gear at the hub for the expansion of each alliance raid and these -include- accessory buys.

Those items are only available if you have completed the main MSQ for the related expansion.

If the player has reached level 80 but is only on the level 64 MSQ (very easy to do, it happened to me on one of my alts in Shadowbringers), they cannot buy either level 70 or level 80 tomestone gear. They're limited to level 60 tomestone gear. One they've completed the quest Stormblood, they can obtain the level 70 tomestone gear but not before completing that quest. Once they've completed the quest Shadowbringers, they can obtain the level 80 tomestone gear but not before completing that quest.

Unfortunately, Alliance roulette will not let a level 80 character queue if they don't have level 80 gear. The only way to get any when you've outleveled the MSQ is buy it off the marketboard or ask a friend to make it. It's not hard to do either of those things but some players are balking because of "principle". They don't understand that MMOs traditionally tie gear to the level of their class/job and not the level of the content they are doing.

[ICountFrom0]

Unfortunately, Alliance roulette will not let a level 80 character queue if they don't have level 80 gear. The only way to get any when you've outleveled the MSQ is buy it off the marketboard or ask a friend to make it. It's not hard to do either of those things but some players are balking because of "principle". They don't understand that MMOs traditionally tie gear to the level of their class/job and not the level of the content they are doing.

This ^^^

Always having to ask, "and what's the level of your next main story quest" to figure out what's really going on with situations.

[Toutatis]

Unfortunately, Alliance roulette will not let a level 80 character queue if they don't have level 80 gear. The only way to get any when you've outleveled the MSQ is buy it off the marketboard or ask a friend to make it. It's not hard to do either of those things but some players are balking because of "principle". They don't understand that MMOs traditionally tie gear to the level of their class/job and not the level of the content they are doing.

This MMO only gives you gear according to the level of the content you are doing and never more than your MSQ progress. If they want to tie things only to level then they should expand the vendors in the 3 main cities. I am not going to buy lvl 90 gear on an alt to run lvl 50 CT. I’d rather not do the roulette at all.

CT is all I’ve been getting this past week on my geared lvl 90 everything main. I’ve dropped about half the time when CT popped only to get CT again later. So far, since the patch I’ve got 3x Aglaia (which I can’t do on my alt), 2XMach, 1xVoid Ark and countless CT. Once I get the tomes I need, I will stop running it completely.

[Rongway]

I am not going to buy lvl 90 gear on an alt to run lvl 50 CT. I’d rather not do the roulette at all.

What answer could anyone possibly have for "why don't you want to gear your alt for the roulette" other than "to force something lower level to pop"? If one wants to run the roulette on their alt, they should gear their alt. If they can't or won't gear their alt, then they can run the roulette on their main. If they can't gear their main for the roulette, then they are overleveled for the story and they don't need to be running the roulette on their main.

[Toutatis]

What answer could anyone possibly have for "why don't you want to gear your alt for the roulette" other than "to force something lower level to pop"? If one wants to run the roulette on their alt, they should gear their alt. If they can't or won't gear their alt, then they can run the roulette on their main. If they can't gear their main for the roulette, then they are overleveled for the story and they don't need to be running the roulette on their main.

I have all the raids unlocked to lvl 80 on my alt and am in 530 gear, which is the appropriate gear for the content I can do. It’s nothing like ilvl cheesing as I haven’t reached the point of being able to unlock the lvl 90 raids nor any lvl 90 content. Not buying useless lvl 90 gear if roulette only gives me CT plus gear would be synched down anyway.

The roulette is not just a matter of need (no one really needs it). It’s a matter of running it with friends and it’s a nice fc activity but I am at the point where I don’t want to do it anymore: I am getting more CT on my main DC than I was pre-patch where Ivalice raids would pop regularly (maybe because several people doing msq are over leveled and locked out?)

[Hasrat]

Be sure to check your bias on that "pre-patch" claim. Ivalice was popping a lot because it was good moogle tomes pre-patch.