No New MMO Yet From Square? Why Havent They Seized The Moment?

[Nebelheim]

Yeah lol, it's pretty unfortunate this is quite common on the official forums.

It is common on the forums and internet in general media tribalism is really annoying and it's something I imagine immature children do but gaming/anime/console tribalism I imagine is people in there 30's and 40's acting like adult children throwing tantrums.

[Striker44]

Yeah lol, it's pretty unfortunate this is quite common on the official forums.

I wonder if the group here realizes the irony of comments like this (or if they just couldn't care less about distorting reality). One guy comes in and comments bad things about WoW, four of you jump on him (supporting the very comment he was making), continue high-fiving each other, and then claim the "common" thing on the forums is defending SE? Just wow. (Hint: The only "common" thing around here is getting ganged up on for daring to say anything positive about the game and not perpetuating the negative echo chamber.)

To the original topic, whether it's a bait post or not, the simple reality is that MMO's are no longer the "king" of gaming like they were 10-15 years ago. Mobile games, MOBA's, and P2W have become the dominant forces at present. The amount of cost that would go into developing a brand new MMO compared to the risks of it failing in the current gaming environment are likely just not worth it.

[Swordsman]

It is common on the forums and internet in general media tribalism is really annoying and it's something I imagine immature children do but gaming/anime/console tribalism I imagine is people in there 30's and 40's acting like adult children throwing tantrums.

Oh yeah, I don't doubt it at all. Some of the older players might have been around their favorite game for a long time and are very partial to it and end up being the ones getting the most defensive.

[Kes13a]

aside from the people trying to derail the thread...

while I dislike WoW after years of it, they are doing "better" since they decided to actually put some effort into their cash cow. Its nothing I would ever want to go back to however... like.. ever. However they are viewed they did manage to poison the well for many people from MMO's to their stellar handling of Overwatch 2.

I suspect that the reason SE isnt diving in with a new MMO is they take time to create. They also likely have research showing that they are not the cash inflow that they used to be and that the market could not support another. But hey OP, if it IS such a great opportunity, I am sure you have an idea that would float so, go for it! If you get the funding for it anyway

[Thurmnmurmn]

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Jumped on him? This thread has been pretty tame. He was the one who came in with random hate.
People responding to him doesn't = jumping on him. There's maybe one or 2 people that I would say maybe you could argue jumped on him.

And honestly these forums are a rotating door. It's not just one sides fault more than the other. The toxic positivity group tries to shut down any complaint about the game and the negativity group respond in kind.
Neither of the 2 groups are saints. You just notice the opposite more depending on what camp you're in.

[Luluya]

I wonder if the group here realizes the irony of comments like this (or if they just couldn't care less about distorting reality). One guy comes in and comments bad things about WoW, four of you jump on him (supporting the very comment he was making), continue high-fiving each other, and then claim the "common" thing on the forums is defending SE? Just wow. (Hint: The only "common" thing around here is getting ganged up on for daring to say anything positive about the game and not perpetuating the negative echo chamber.)

To the original topic, whether it's a bait post or not, the simple reality is that MMO's are no longer the "king" of gaming like they were 10-15 years ago. Mobile games, MOBA's, and P2W have become the dominant forces at present. The amount of cost that would go into developing a brand new MMO compared to the risks of it failing in the current gaming environment are likely just not worth it.

The person being 'ganged' up on as you say it just came into the thread to spew hateful remarks and accuse another player of being 'indoctrinated' by blizzard.

The real irony is that person being defended by you with such a statement.

[ForteNightshade]

Risk vs. reward. Why would SE risk large amounts of capital on creating a new MMO which might not succeed when they can milk the current FFXIV playerbase for everything they're worth? All SE has to do is release a new glam or a mount and FFXIV players will be scrambling over each other to be the first ones to purchase it. No need for SE to make another MMO when they can already rake in the cash like this. TLDR: SE firmly believes in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

This is the current answer. FFXIV just saw the largest surge of players in its history this expansion. There is zero incentive whatsoever to invest in a new MMO that will likely cost hundreds of millions with no guarantee they'll convince the existing FFXIV playerbase to move over. Even announcing a new FF MMO basically signals to people that FFXIV won't see as much attention. So even on the off chance they are considering a third FF MMO, we're not going to hear a single word about it for at least another 5-6 years.

[Stormpeaks]

I wonder if the group here realizes the irony of comments like this (or if they just couldn't care less about distorting reality). One guy comes in and comments bad things about WoW, four of you jump on him (supporting the very comment he was making), continue high-fiving each other, and then claim the "common" thing on the forums is defending SE? Just wow. (Hint: The only "common" thing around here is getting ganged up on for daring to say anything positive about the game and not perpetuating the negative echo chamber.)

To the original topic, whether it's a bait post or not, the simple reality is that MMO's are no longer the "king" of gaming like they were 10-15 years ago. Mobile games, MOBA's, and P2W have become the dominant forces at present. The amount of cost that would go into developing a brand new MMO compared to the risks of it failing in the current gaming environment are likely just not worth it.

Really ready to defend anything that goes agaisnt me eh ?

WoW is absolute garbage through and through. Blizzard is a repulsive corporation and it shows constantly. I am sorry you didn't escape the indoctrination process.

Surely this person has good intentions towards me, thank you for telling me, I am sure they really care about me.

[Fyrebrand]

Utterly delusional. Just because you don't like a certain MMO and don't play it yourself doesn't mean it's dead. I can't comment on all the games you mentioned, but FFXIV, WoW, ESO and GW2 are thriving. ESO puts out expansions regularly, and just today I got an e-mail from them about some kind of new endless roguelike dungeon mode. GW2 released a new expansion not long ago, and announced plans to ramp up the regularity of new content by putting out "mini-expansions" every year.

Even if every other MMO were dead, FFXIV is insanely profitable and it will remain Square Enix's most profitable game for years. There is no "moment" to seize. Why would they compete with themselves by making a new MMO now?

[Boblawblah]

I don't know about the OP, but I enjoy lots of mmos.

ESO (I can make alts for days on that game and just replay the stories over and over again. so much fun)
SWTOR (Best story mmorpg by far, and one of the few sci-fi ones)
FFXIV (not much to say)
GW2 (sometimes)

Oddly enough, all the newer MMOs I'm just not a fan of, and WoW is really only for WoW players. I'd love to enjoy WoW, but the push to make everyone only play the newest content isn't for me.