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    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    I'm curious to know why Square hasn't positioned itself to take over the mmo market with a new MMO yet. With FF14 being built on the old Crystal Engine and extremely limited by it, and with all the lessons learned from 10+ years of development on it, and with a large portion of the MMO community at large focused on Square, why haven't we seen SE seize the moment?

    The market is ready for a new major MMO to take the scene and corner the market for the next 10 years.

    WoW is in decline, classic is more popular than retail, and will continue to be so.
    ESO is forgettable.
    BDO / Korean MMOs dont fare well in the west because nobody wants to gamble/p2w
    GW2 has all but died out, with no hope that arenanet makes a GW3
    All the alpha mmos (CU, Pantheon, Ashes) are nothing more than vaporware for 7+ years


    The time is now, and it baffles me why square hasn't took the initiative to secure the market with a well made, competent mmo that's running on an updated engine with the lessons they've learned from ff14.

    I fear they are, or have already lost the initiative to really secure a large dynasty mmo, and as records show, competently made mmos are one of the most secure forms of profit available to gaming companies.
    Risk vs. reward. Why would SE risk large amounts of capital on creating a new MMO which might not succeed when they can milk the current FFXIV playerbase for everything they're worth? All SE has to do is release a new glam or a mount and FFXIV players will be scrambling over each other to be the first ones to purchase it. No need for SE to make another MMO when they can already rake in the cash like this. TLDR: SE firmly believes in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman View Post
    Risk vs. reward. Why would SE risk large amounts of capital on creating a new MMO which might not succeed when they can milk the current FFXIV playerbase for everything they're worth? All SE has to do is release a new glam or a mount and FFXIV players will be scrambling over each other to be the first ones to purchase it. No need for SE to make another MMO when they can already rake in the cash like this. TLDR: SE firmly believes in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
    This is the current answer. FFXIV just saw the largest surge of players in its history this expansion. There is zero incentive whatsoever to invest in a new MMO that will likely cost hundreds of millions with no guarantee they'll convince the existing FFXIV playerbase to move over. Even announcing a new FF MMO basically signals to people that FFXIV won't see as much attention. So even on the off chance they are considering a third FF MMO, we're not going to hear a single word about it for at least another 5-6 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    with no guarantee they'll convince the existing FFXIV playerbase to move over.
    Yeah, this too. Some of the more diehard fans have probably sunk tens of thousands of hours into this game as well as hundreds of dollars into glams and mounts. They'll probably be hesitant to abandon that all unless SE allows some things to transfer over.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Even announcing a new FF MMO basically signals to people that FFXIV won't see as much attention.
    I can actually see some FFXIV players even opposing the idea of a new SE MMO because that means their favorite game will no longer be on SE's pedestal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman View Post
    Yeah, this too. Some of the more diehard fans have probably sunk tens of thousands of hours into this game as well as hundreds of dollars into glams and mounts. They'll probably be hesitant to abandon that all unless SE allows some things to transfer over.
    My guess is they won't, citizen. Why let players transfer old items to the new MMO when Square can just have them spend more by making them buy all new items? That sounds like something Square would do.




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