No New MMO Yet From Square? Why Havent They Seized The Moment?

[yaba_gabagool]

I'm curious to know why Square hasn't positioned itself to take over the mmo market with a new MMO yet. With FF14 being built on the old Crystal Engine and extremely limited by it, and with all the lessons learned from 10+ years of development on it, and with a large portion of the MMO community at large focused on Square, why haven't we seen SE seize the moment?

The market is ready for a new major MMO to take the scene and corner the market for the next 10 years.

WoW is in decline, classic is more popular than retail, and will continue to be so.
ESO is forgettable.
BDO / Korean MMOs dont fare well in the west because nobody wants to gamble/p2w
GW2 has all but died out, with no hope that arenanet makes a GW3
All the alpha mmos (CU, Pantheon, Ashes) are nothing more than vaporware for 7+ years


The time is now, and it baffles me why square hasn't took the initiative to secure the market with a well made, competent mmo that's running on an updated engine with the lessons they've learned from ff14.

I fear they are, or have already lost the initiative to really secure a large dynasty mmo, and as records show, competently made mmos are one of the most secure forms of profit available to gaming companies.

[Stormpeaks]

I'm curious to know why Square hasn't positioned itself to take over the mmo market with a new MMO yet. With FF14 being built on the old Crystal Engine and extremely limited by it, and with all the lessons learned from 10+ years of development on it, and with a large portion of the MMO community at large focused on Square, why haven't we seen SE seize the moment?

The market is ready for a new major MMO to take the scene and corner the market for the next 10 years.

WoW is in decline, classic is more popular than retail, and will continue to be so.
ESO is forgettable.
BDO / Korean MMOs dont fare well in the west because nobody wants to gamble/p2w
GW2 has all but died out, with no hope that arenanet makes a GW3
All the alpha mmos (CU, Pantheon, Ashes) are nothing more than vaporware for 7+ years


The time is now, and it baffles me why square hasn't took the initiative to secure the market with a well made, competent mmo that's running on an updated engine with the lessons they've learned from ff14.

I fear they are, or have already lost the initiative to really secure a large dynasty mmo, and as records show, competently made mmos are one of the most secure forms of profit available to gaming companies.

I cant speak for anything else in that list but WoW

WoW is in decline, classic is more popular than retail, and will continue to be so

Is extremely false actually, but you do you lol.

WoW retail has been very stable this expansion, one of the most stable ever if anything and the player retention is actually good.

https://www.dexerto.com/world-of-war...zzard-2217897/

The company noted as much when mentioning that “subscriber retention in the West remains higher than at the equivalent stage of recent Modern expansions.” It probably helps that WoW’s development team is “delivering more content faster than ever before.”

Which also has been proven by subscriber numbers on various websites.

[Reap00]

I cant speak for anything else in that list but WoW



Is extremely false actually, but you do you lol.

WoW retail has been very stable this expansion, one of the most stable ever if anything and the player retention is actually good.

https://www.dexerto.com/world-of-war...zzard-2217897/



Which also has been proven by subscriber numbers on various websites.

WoW is absolute garbage through and through. Blizzard is a repulsive corporation and it shows constantly. I am sorry you didn't escape the indoctrination process.

[Nebelheim]

WoW is absolute garbage through and through. Blizzard is a repulsive corporation and it shows constantly. I am sorry you didn't escape the indoctrination process.

Just like Square Enix indoctrinated you to defend them at the mere mention of another mmo or someone says something about the game you don't like. World of warcraft is treated as the Voldemort "He who shall not be named" of the ff14 community and it's funny how tribalistic some people get over there favorite media. All games and companies can learn from one another and take ideas from other games/companies it creates competition.

[Swordsman]

WoW is absolute garbage through and through. Blizzard is a repulsive corporation and it shows constantly. I am sorry you didn't escape the indoctrination process.

Straight to ad hominem, nice.

[Nebelheim]

Straight to ad hominem, nice.

They only jump into threads as the defense force of the game/company because how dare people name another game/company or criticize the game.

[Swordsman]

They only jump into threads as the defense force of the game/company because how dare people name another game/company or criticize the game.

Yeah lol, it's pretty unfortunate this is quite common on the official forums.

[Evergrey]

WoW is absolute garbage through and through. Blizzard is a repulsive corporation and it shows constantly. I am sorry you didn't escape the indoctrination process.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it complete garbage.
Also, that attitude is a prime example of how many see the WoW community acting like.
Bashing on anything that doesn't suit their own personal point of view.
(I thought the FFXIV community was better than this. /s)
Clearly it's a good game in general, seeing how it has managed to stay active for so long and still is the top dog among MMOs.

Blizz however, they used to be good too. But it's as the saying goes, "Either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

[CidHeiral]

WoW is absolute garbage through and through.

I would have said the same thing from the end of Wrath to very recently but I gave Dragonflight a shot and it's actually alright. Still not my cup of tea for a variety of reasons like the boring combat and the awful writing, but as a whole it's not bad. FFXIV could learn a thing or two from DF, like having more engaging content out in the zones. I thought DF's zones being full of little events and hidden treasures was pretty neat. The first time I got one shot by Fyrrak out of nowhere in that centaur plains area I laughed out loud.

[Mayhemmer]

It's already been said, but... if SE were to release a new modern MMO anytime in the foreseeable future, their biggest competitor would be themselves. And, there's always the risk of another 'FFXI to 1.0 FFXIV' situation. SE is REALLY good at making bad decisions when it comes to tanked investments, and I'd really rather not encourage that trend further.

FFXIV could learn a thing or two from DF, like having more engaging content out in the zones. I thought DF's zones being full of little events and hidden treasures was pretty neat.

Big agree. XIV desperately needs to bring it's zone content up to snuff.