No New MMO Yet From Square? Why Havent They Seized The Moment?

[Stormpeaks]

I'm curious to know why Square hasn't positioned itself to take over the mmo market with a new MMO yet. With FF14 being built on the old Crystal Engine and extremely limited by it, and with all the lessons learned from 10+ years of development on it, and with a large portion of the MMO community at large focused on Square, why haven't we seen SE seize the moment?

The market is ready for a new major MMO to take the scene and corner the market for the next 10 years.

WoW is in decline, classic is more popular than retail, and will continue to be so.
ESO is forgettable.
BDO / Korean MMOs dont fare well in the west because nobody wants to gamble/p2w
GW2 has all but died out, with no hope that arenanet makes a GW3
All the alpha mmos (CU, Pantheon, Ashes) are nothing more than vaporware for 7+ years


The time is now, and it baffles me why square hasn't took the initiative to secure the market with a well made, competent mmo that's running on an updated engine with the lessons they've learned from ff14.

I fear they are, or have already lost the initiative to really secure a large dynasty mmo, and as records show, competently made mmos are one of the most secure forms of profit available to gaming companies.

I cant speak for anything else in that list but WoW

WoW is in decline, classic is more popular than retail, and will continue to be so

Is extremely false actually, but you do you lol.

WoW retail has been very stable this expansion, one of the most stable ever if anything and the player retention is actually good.

https://www.dexerto.com/world-of-war...zzard-2217897/

The company noted as much when mentioning that “subscriber retention in the West remains higher than at the equivalent stage of recent Modern expansions.” It probably helps that WoW’s development team is “delivering more content faster than ever before.”

Which also has been proven by subscriber numbers on various websites.

[Reap00]

I cant speak for anything else in that list but WoW



Is extremely false actually, but you do you lol.

WoW retail has been very stable this expansion, one of the most stable ever if anything and the player retention is actually good.

https://www.dexerto.com/world-of-war...zzard-2217897/



Which also has been proven by subscriber numbers on various websites.

WoW is absolute garbage through and through. Blizzard is a repulsive corporation and it shows constantly. I am sorry you didn't escape the indoctrination process.

[Nebelheim]

WoW is absolute garbage through and through. Blizzard is a repulsive corporation and it shows constantly. I am sorry you didn't escape the indoctrination process.

Just like Square Enix indoctrinated you to defend them at the mere mention of another mmo or someone says something about the game you don't like. World of warcraft is treated as the Voldemort "He who shall not be named" of the ff14 community and it's funny how tribalistic some people get over there favorite media. All games and companies can learn from one another and take ideas from other games/companies it creates competition.

[Swordsman]

WoW is absolute garbage through and through. Blizzard is a repulsive corporation and it shows constantly. I am sorry you didn't escape the indoctrination process.

Straight to ad hominem, nice.

[Nebelheim]

Straight to ad hominem, nice.

They only jump into threads as the defense force of the game/company because how dare people name another game/company or criticize the game.

[Swordsman]

They only jump into threads as the defense force of the game/company because how dare people name another game/company or criticize the game.

Yeah lol, it's pretty unfortunate this is quite common on the official forums.

[Nebelheim]

Yeah lol, it's pretty unfortunate this is quite common on the official forums.

It is common on the forums and internet in general media tribalism is really annoying and it's something I imagine immature children do but gaming/anime/console tribalism I imagine is people in there 30's and 40's acting like adult children throwing tantrums.

[Swordsman]

It is common on the forums and internet in general media tribalism is really annoying and it's something I imagine immature children do but gaming/anime/console tribalism I imagine is people in there 30's and 40's acting like adult children throwing tantrums.

Oh yeah, I don't doubt it at all. Some of the older players might have been around their favorite game for a long time and are very partial to it and end up being the ones getting the most defensive.

[Striker44]

Yeah lol, it's pretty unfortunate this is quite common on the official forums.

I wonder if the group here realizes the irony of comments like this (or if they just couldn't care less about distorting reality). One guy comes in and comments bad things about WoW, four of you jump on him (supporting the very comment he was making), continue high-fiving each other, and then claim the "common" thing on the forums is defending SE? Just wow. (Hint: The only "common" thing around here is getting ganged up on for daring to say anything positive about the game and not perpetuating the negative echo chamber.)

To the original topic, whether it's a bait post or not, the simple reality is that MMO's are no longer the "king" of gaming like they were 10-15 years ago. Mobile games, MOBA's, and P2W have become the dominant forces at present. The amount of cost that would go into developing a brand new MMO compared to the risks of it failing in the current gaming environment are likely just not worth it.

[Luluya]

I wonder if the group here realizes the irony of comments like this (or if they just couldn't care less about distorting reality). One guy comes in and comments bad things about WoW, four of you jump on him (supporting the very comment he was making), continue high-fiving each other, and then claim the "common" thing on the forums is defending SE? Just wow. (Hint: The only "common" thing around here is getting ganged up on for daring to say anything positive about the game and not perpetuating the negative echo chamber.)

To the original topic, whether it's a bait post or not, the simple reality is that MMO's are no longer the "king" of gaming like they were 10-15 years ago. Mobile games, MOBA's, and P2W have become the dominant forces at present. The amount of cost that would go into developing a brand new MMO compared to the risks of it failing in the current gaming environment are likely just not worth it.

The person being 'ganged' up on as you say it just came into the thread to spew hateful remarks and accuse another player of being 'indoctrinated' by blizzard.

The real irony is that person being defended by you with such a statement.