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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    one its the order SE does after 2 DPS is either a healer or tank and we just had a healer this expansion. so its tank and suport ranged dps in the expansion after DT also the job balance is always up and down but over all its balanced fine people just like to complain.
    literally no. look at the state of rdm right now, look at war. how can u tell me job balance is fine. monk does maxium effort to do same smg as mch with no effort... things are not OK

    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Yeah I remember that. I played a decent amount of mch back then and I can't recall ever actually experiencing anyone denying me for playing it.
    A lot of people talk about it yes. But the actual actions I guess were mostly in the elite groups.

    Imo FFXIV is way better equipped than wow for creating imbalance in jobs.
    You can play all jobs on one character so why not give an incentive to play other jobs.
    And also the usage of DPS meters is "technically" not allowed. So only those who use them would even know/care who isn't up to par.
    you dont need dps meters to calculate damage, you can do it with a spreadsheet and calculator, thats how YoshiP does it. theres also the decently reliable in game agro meter that shows 1-8 in agro. its not fool proof but its good enough. just because somebody knows your job does bad dps doesnt mean theyre using ACT

    I can't recall ever actually experiencing anyone denying me for playing it
    i literally had to became a rpr main because of it happening on chaos PF

    You can play all jobs on one character so why not give an incentive to play other jobs.
    because exclusion isnt incentive its an ultimatum
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 10-27-2023 at 09:34 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    literally no. look at the state of rdm right now, look at war. how can u tell me job balance is fine. monk does maxium effort to do same smg as mch with no effort... things are not OK
    they are fine. you can feel other wise and so will other people you can't make everyone happy. every expansion will come with a decent amount of combat changes that make every job suck to someone for some reason and say it's not balanced but at the end of the day it will be alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    they are fine. you can feel other wise and so will other people you can't make everyone happy. every expansion will come with a decent amount of combat changes that make every job suck to someone for some reason and say it's not balanced but at the end of the day it will be alright.
    dude no. i main mch and play monk on the side. its not "fine" at all. i have to delay half my skills just to line up my bursts with themselves, i have to use a rotation that isnt supported by XIVanalysis making improving and learning enarly impossible. i genuinly think you dont play these jobs your claiming are fine. i play these jobs in savages, i can FEEL that theyre not ok. if itl be "alright" its only because we faut to have it fixed
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    the problem is not "X is better than Y" the problem is "X gameplay is very close to Y's gameplay"

    meta is a thing for the top 0,1% players (week1 savages hard dps check (e8s/p8s) or HC speedkill)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    you dont need dps meters to calculate damage, you can do it with a spreadsheet and calculator, thats how YoshiP does it.
    You don't honestly believe this, do you?
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