Please make getting gear faster in Dawntrail

[Raraka]

FFXIV: We want to be able to gear faster!
SE: OK, fine. For a start we'll make relics just take 1500 mid grade tomes to complete each step. That will make it so people can get multiple jobs their weapons quickly.
FFXIV player base: No, not like that.

Seriously, make up your godsdamned minds.

The complaints about the relic is more on what was lost as side-content from this approach

If anyhing I have heard people they are happy they can get a decent mainhand for their alt jobs, but sad its bland/boring to obtain

An equivalent in this example would be SE removing the 1 dungeon per patch to give you tomestones for logging in and watering a plant

[chaotix69]

In DT we will have 21 jobs spread across 7 gear types. Gearing is just too slow to support this. It currently, at absolute best, takes around two months to get BiS on one job. It can take as long as a few months. This is too slow. There is no reason to not radically increase how fast I can gear alt jobs in DT. Faster gearing means I have more stuff to do and can enjoy more jobs more quickly. It also means balance isn't as big a deal bc if balance is off and you have to switch jobs it doesn't take as long to catch your gear up.

I don't care how they do it. I don't care if they double the tomestone cap and/or cut the cost of tome gear in half. I don't care if I can get two items from each savage fight a week. I don't care if they add a way to upgrade dungeon gear. I don't care if they let me upgrade normal raid gear. I don't care if FATEs reward a gearset each patch. I don't care if alliance raid gear rewards savage equivalent and has a more generous loot lockout. I don't care how it's done, I just want to gear alts faster and with 21 jobs there's no reason not to.

Are you kidding me? It's already way too fast as it is! Why does it need to be even more streamlines just to appease the minority that wants to always max every job?

[Rolder50]

To be more specific, I want them to make gearing alternate jobs faster after you have geared one. A huge chunk of value provided by the all jobs on one character system is wiped out by the weekly loot lockouts and such.

[Teno]

FFXIV: We want to be able to gear faster!
SE: OK, fine. For a start we'll make relics just take 1500 mid grade tomes to complete each step. That will make it so people can get multiple jobs their weapons quickly.
FFXIV player base: No, not like that.

Seriously, make up your godsdamned minds.

Narrow-minded much eh. Also specify which side of the player base, as well as the context of the demand, in large part related to how tedious it is to gear alts in savage.

[Azlith]

I'm kind of amazed at the number of people opposed to faster gearing. There are even arguments in here saying that you don't need to be bis. This is true, but playing the game while in BiS is actually fun for many people, and fun should trump pretty much everything.

It feels really bad if you are in BiS on something like samurai but you want to play ninja. Sure you could just play ninja but there will always be that feeling of letting the group down a bit knowing that you could be playing samurai and have far more health and damage. Allowing players to gear faster would only ever increase the amount of fun people have with the game and would in no way detract from anyone's experience, I don't see a down side.

[Volgia]

Honestly, with the addition of Savage Criterion Dungeons, you'd think they'd drop stuff like the upgrades for the tomestone gear or something raid equivalent since it takes them like a month to introduce them. It would make the that content repeatable and help people who like gearing alt jobs.

[TomsYoungerBro]

FFXIV: We want to be able to gear faster!
SE: OK, fine. For a start we'll make relics just take 1500 mid grade tomes to complete each step. That will make it so people can get multiple jobs their weapons quickly.
FFXIV player base: No, not like that.

Seriously, make up your godsdamned minds.

That is not what people are asking for though. They are asking for BiS gear during each tier to be obtainable quicker. the Relic isn't BiS until the very last update of the relic at the end of the expac. This is an illogical argument

There is no content in the game that requires you to have BiS gear to meet IL requirements for entry, not even the content that itself awards BiS gear.

Current patch ultimates require BiS. You won't even get into PF without it. Create your own party with that tier's crafted on, and you'll quickly become one of the most blacklisted players on your data center.

[Kaurhz]

IMO, I would only increase Tome cap slightly, from 450-600 or something like that.

More importantly than simply reducing or increasing rates, I think they need to revise or make additions to the content streams that you can obtain BiS from. E.g., this could be Criterion savage dungeons. They really need to diversify more than just tomes and savage raids for gear IMO.

[Ravenblade1979]

I will take "how to make this game super casual friendly for 400 Alex"

[Remedi]

You ppl do realize that Endwalker is the expansion with the fastest gear acquisition by a long shot?

tier 1: no belt/ weapon dropped to 500 tomestones

tier 2 : the above + head/gloves/feet dropped to 4 books

tier 3 : the above + first boss drops 1 of each accessory. second boss drops always 1 head, 1 gloves, 1 boots, third boss drops 1 legs and 1 chest + they cost now 6 books and most BIS use one of each anyway.

I get it could be faster but I feel like are missing some context