Please make getting gear faster in Dawntrail

[Poporito_Popoto]

The bulk of players don't need BiS gear.

[Colt47]

The bulk of players don't need BiS gear.

That isn't even a viable argument anymore. You need the best gear available for the jobs you play because some content demands the higher gear, or to even qualify to do certain things you need to have the gear up to the right score. They have simplified all the jobs to the point that supporting more than one role is possible at top end gear, which wasn't the case a few years ago. I mean savage is a mess at the moment in more than one way...

[Rongway]

The bulk of players don't need BiS gear.

That isn't even a viable argument anymore. You need the best gear available for the jobs you play because some content demands the higher gear, or to even qualify to do certain things you need to have the gear up to the right score.

There is no content in the game that requires you to have BiS gear to meet IL requirements for entry, not even the content that itself awards BiS gear.

[TomsYoungerBro]

FFXIV: We want to be able to gear faster!
SE: OK, fine. For a start we'll make relics just take 1500 mid grade tomes to complete each step. That will make it so people can get multiple jobs their weapons quickly.
FFXIV player base: No, not like that.

Seriously, make up your godsdamned minds.

That is not what people are asking for though. They are asking for BiS gear during each tier to be obtainable quicker. the Relic isn't BiS until the very last update of the relic at the end of the expac. This is an illogical argument

There is no content in the game that requires you to have BiS gear to meet IL requirements for entry, not even the content that itself awards BiS gear.

Current patch ultimates require BiS. You won't even get into PF without it. Create your own party with that tier's crafted on, and you'll quickly become one of the most blacklisted players on your data center.

[Alaray]

I think sixteen weeks from first clear of the final fight to gear 1 job is excessive; I may enjoy raiding on a specific job within a particular role, but the ability to replay the fights on off-jobs I enjoy and want to improve on helps keep things fresh and fun, to me.

Going in on an off role, job etc... I don't know as well in what, essentially, amounts to week 1 gear just means I'd be far more of a detriment than if I was able to gear that job alongside the one I play the most and am most comfortable on, as the gear itself will offer a comfortable barrier to where even if I'm playing poorly, it's not necessarily an active detriment to a party.

I'm not saying you should be able to get BiS week 1, but I do think by week 16 if you're clearing the appropriate fights, you should be able to have at least one other job by that point geared out. I rarely end up getting BiS just because I get bored and burned out playing the same job every time, personally.

But, I will say, gear shouldn't be limited to sate the misplaced sense of being special some people have. And I don't think limiting it to the extent it is provides any player benefit to the game.

[Mecia]

I recall reading something about JP throwing a hissy fit in ARR when relic weapons were on par or better than their contemporaries from 'savage' content. So CBU3 being CBU3 they overcorrected and gearing in general has stayed rigid.

I might be entirely wrong and tinfoiling but it would check out.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I recall reading something about JP throwing a hissy fit in ARR when relic weapons were on par or better than their contemporaries from 'savage' content. So CBU3 being CBU3 they overcorrected and gearing in general has stayed rigid.

I might be entirely wrong and tinfoiling but it would check out.

A small amount of the raiders in general were doing that, it wasn't limited to 1 region. Most however didn't care because the ARR relics were the game's longest grind content at the time. The people complaining about doing them now would have never made it past the base weapon when they were new.

[RaideDuku]

FFXIV: We want to be able to gear faster!
SE: OK, fine. For a start we'll make relics just take 1500 mid grade tomes to complete each step. That will make it so people can get multiple jobs their weapons quickly.
FFXIV player base: No, not like that.

Seriously, make up your godsdamned minds.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

FFXIV: We want to be able to gear faster!
SE: OK, fine. For a start we'll make relics just take 1500 mid grade tomes to complete each step. That will make it so people can get multiple jobs their weapons quickly.
FFXIV player base: No, not like that.

Seriously, make up your godsdamned minds.

That was simply the lazy way out: And the fact that allowed them to cut a lot of resources by not relating the Relic to a quest and even worse of a loss: Field Operation. Instead they linked it to an off-topic quest.
The Relic was never meant as a short goal - is after all - the strongest weapon of each expansion: The fact they just took the lazy way out hurts it's status as actually relic rarity weapon. Easily the worse possible decision SE could have taken.

Then again is SE: And they are always cutting corners... The less money goes into the game the better.

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Gearing shouldn't be balanced arround one class/job.
It should be balanced arround gearing at least three of them.

One of this game's main features, one which has made it's way into lore itself: The job change - The Armory System.
One character, all jobs. And at many points either the progression of classes, jobs and now even at high end progression job changing, or at least basic knowledge of other roles are doing/how they work is fundamental.


We should be able to gear three roles at "the speed" we now gear a single class. A x3 multiplier to all tomestone/raid token gear.
For example with a discount in price for the first weekly purchase of a piece of gear in each role.

Basically gives us the option to have three main jobs: one per role.

[Teno]

FFXIV: We want to be able to gear faster!
SE: OK, fine. For a start we'll make relics just take 1500 mid grade tomes to complete each step. That will make it so people can get multiple jobs their weapons quickly.
FFXIV player base: No, not like that.

Seriously, make up your godsdamned minds.

Narrow-minded much eh. Also specify which side of the player base, as well as the context of the demand, in large part related to how tedious it is to gear alts in savage.