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  1. #371
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    Not sure how you are equating that to no loss in progression as all "level syncing" is doing is disabling usuable buttons from your hotbar. The progression is the leveling friend as the msq is majority OUTSIDE of instanced content.

    Also the gear progression is there. Just buy gear on the marketboard as you level up! Its simple and easy :].
    I'm not sure what you mean here. Level sync effectively removes overleveling when synced, which is more than removing skills. This means that the value of gear isn't diminished so a leveled player can still progress through gear normally.

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    People are already doing that, having one person from friends or an FC on a low level alt, and the others queueing with the alt to get into a guaranteed CT.
    Yes, so the ilvl change isn't even good at keeping people from forcing CT. All the more reason to find a real solution.
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  2. #372
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    Khulan Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    People are already doing that, having one person from friends or an FC on a low level alt, and the others queueing with the alt to get into a guaranteed CT.
    People are putting more effort into avoiding other raids than they could have spent doing Orbonne or something and that's hilarious.
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  3. #373
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    TomsYoungerBro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean here. Level sync effectively removes overleveling when synced, which is more than removing skills. This means that the value of gear isn't diminished so a leveled player can still progress through gear normally.
    Except for a large majority of the MSQ that is out of instance, but you didn't read that part surely ? I'm sure the progression feels great when you smack around level 60ish mobs in quests, and then go into an instanced piece of content struggling with bosses of similar level. The progression is clearly broken once you start maxing out way early lmao. And again, gear progression can be handled "normally" outside the need of MSQ through the market board. Your arguments are illogical and overall non-issues.
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  4. #374
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    Except for a large majority of the MSQ that is out of instance, but you didn't read that part surely ? I'm sure the progression feels great when you smack around level 60ish mobs in quests, and then go into an instanced piece of content struggling with bosses of similar level. The progression is clearly broken once you start maxing out way early lmao. And again, gear progression can be handled "normally" outside the need of MSQ through the market board. Your arguments are illogical and overall non-issues.
    Now I understand what you mean a little better, but it's all player dependent really. The combat outside of instances is more or less filler, or at the very least a lot less significant than instanced combat. Being overleveled in those cases may not even register for the player. I can't speak for other players, but I know they were far less memorable for me during my first MSQ playthrough than instances. FF14 being a MMO, dungeons with other players grabbed my attention far more.

    Not everyone will feel the same, but I hope you can see how progression can be preserved even with overleveling.

    I don't know why you're bring up the MB though, that's not a factor. Gear progression is just about collecting better and better gear over time, which can be done via MB or without the MB.
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  5. #375
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    To prevent overleveling? Simply bail that alt out upon entering lol.
    When the low level alt leaves to avoid gaining experience, whoever else wants to leave can do so without penalty. The queue was only like 3 minutes so it was easy to get a higher level raid each time I bailed CT like this.

    This also applies to runs where a new player direct queued into the same instance as the throwaway alt, thus reducing the number of times people have to run CT for new players. Basically people are leveling alts just to provide others a free exit from CT lol. How nice!
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    Last edited by Reinha; 10-20-2023 at 07:09 AM.

  6. #376
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    People are putting more effort into avoiding other raids than they could have spent doing Orbonne or something and that's hilarious.
    eh ... I've never done it but I'm pretty sure the process described by VerdeLuck (+CT completion time) still gonna take significant less time than an Orbonne run, so not sure why you would find it hilarious? That just sounds like someone take a 5min detour to avoid a 20min traffic jam, sound legit to me.
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  7. #377
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    People are already doing that, having one person from friends or an FC on a low level alt, and the others queueing with the alt to get into a guaranteed CT.
    Good lord imagine someone being so completely incompetent at something they have to resort to nonsense like this just to avoid having to rub their two brain cells together.
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  8. #378
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    Cach Mandrake
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    First Alliance roulette after my 40-something day absence.

    Labyrinth.

    I don't really care as much as some people do, but I laughed.
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  9. #379
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    I tried out alliance roulette after the changes. The whole week I ran it I only got Labyrinth. Before the changes I would get others sometimes. I see the changes didn't help at all getting other raids in it. They should have just left it alone.
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  10. #380
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    Tim Brady
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I tried out alliance roulette after the changes. The whole week I ran it I only got Labyrinth. Before the changes I would get others sometimes. I see the changes didn't help at all getting other raids in it. They should have just left it alone.
    I've been getting way more 60+ ARs since the change. Guess its my confirmation bias vs yours? Though the facts point to there being less CTs overall for the population
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