Zero: Trans or Lesbian, or Both?

[Davixxa]

You're getting way to overly defensive over a head canon. You should probably chill from the forums since you are starting to become passive aggressive about it.

No passive aggressiveness here. I'm just being plain and stating the obvious to anyone with a high school education. I see you're on Balmung. Do American schools not teach basic intertextuality and symbolism and literature analysis?

Because genuinely, the answer is screaming you right in the face, and you're choosing to put a blind eye to it.

If it is "just a headcanon", then please answer the following:


* Why is the Crystal in the Empty rainbow-coloured rather than blue with a white tint on the bottom like every other Aetheryte crystal on the First?

* Why did they recreate the Squall and Rinoa cutscene down to the individual head movements in combination with camera angles, not to mention transitions? Down to the way Gaia and Squall falters? Down to the angle that Squall/Gaia sees Rinoa/Ryne?

Again, Final Fantasy 8 is a love story. This cutscene, in the original has a romantic overtone. They chose to recreate this in extreme detail. That is not an accident. And to pretend that this also doesn't make the FFXIV version have a romantic overtone is to spit in the face of not only Final Fantasy as a series, but all story writers and artists in general.

[Bonoki]

No passive aggressiveness here. I'm just being plain and stating the obvious to anyone with a high school education. I see you're on Balmung. Do American schools not teach basic intertextuality and symbolism and literature analysis?

You are being literally passive aggressive here in this exact sentence, yet want to insult my "intelligence level" while failing to realize how hypocritical you are being? lol
This is way past debate now. You're just simply being rude and a jerk at this point because others don't agree with you.

[Davixxa]

You are being literally passive aggressive here in this exact sentence, yet want to insult my "intelligence level" while failing to realize how hypocritical you are being? lol
This is way past debate now. You're just simply being rude and a jerk at this point because others don't agree with you.

No. I'm asking a honest, serious question here. Because that is genuinely the only way I could fathom someone not seeing what is plainly obvious to anyone that are actually taught those skills.

Still waiting for the answers to my other questions, by the way. Because these need a different explanation, if they're not examples of symbolism and intertextuality.

[Bonoki]

No. I'm asking a honest, serious question here. Because that is genuinely the only way I could fathom someone not seeing what is plainly obvious to anyone that are actually taught those skills.

Still waiting for the answers to my other questions, by the way. Because these need a different explanation, if they're not examples of symbolism and intertextuality.

After the way you been behaving and talking down to me because I don't agree with you, I ain't going to bother answering your questions because I don't care enough about this topic to begin with. You been unnecessarily rude over a headcanon.

[Davixxa]

After the way you been behaving and talking down to me because I don't agree with you, I ain't going to bother answering your questions because I don't care enough about this topic to begin with. You been unnecessarily rude over a headcanon.

Somehow I have a feeling you weren't going to answer them anyway, and that this was just a convenient excuse. In any case, without any alternative explanations, your argument has nothing to stand on.

How does Balmung = American? You do realize that Canada is apart of NA as well right? Guess all EU Balmung players are automatically American now.

I mean, the A in NA does stand for America. Canada, by virtue of being a North American country, is included here.

I suppose Greenland would be as well, but given they're supposed to be following ostensibly the same curriculum that mainland Denmark does, I'm not too worried there.

[Remish]

I mean, the A in NA does stand for America. Canada, by virtue of being a North American country, is included here.

I suppose Greenland would be as well, but given they're supposed to be following ostensibly the same curriculum that mainland Denmark does, I'm not too worried there.

Canadian schools aren't usually referred to as American. They are referred to as Canadian Schools. The Canadian Education system. American schools/American education system refers to the United States. Grouping both as "American" is incorrect because they have vastly different education systems.

Additionally due to the confusion of the America(s), it would be more accurate to say "North American Education System" if you are trying to imply the whole continent.

[Davixxa]

Canadian schools aren't usually referred to as American. They are referred to as Canadian Schools. The Canadian Education system. American schools/American education system refers to the United States. Grouping both as "American" is incorrect because they have vastly different education systems.

Fair enough. I grouped them together a bit hastily, I suppose, and it was mainly aimed at the United States' education system, and not the Canadian one. I fell into the trope of assuming everyone on the internet is American, which the internet sure does love acting like at times. Apologies there.

Their age doesn't matter. They are not at the same age from a social aspect. In terms of friendships, they are toddlers.

Ryne also said in a cutscene in game Gaia is the first friend she had that was near her age. We don't know the actual age of the twins at that point but Rynes line implies she's younger.

And the fact it's a copy of another scene doesn't confirm anything. They can take aspects of another game but changes things if they want.

> Their age doesn't matter. They are not at the same age from a social aspect. In terms of friendships, they are toddlers.

Except the game depicts Ryne as, mentally speaking, essentially an adult? She quite literally acts like the twins, who didn't have to deal with the isolation. I really do not buy the "In terms of friendships, they are toddlers" explanation. Nor would that be a realistic depiction of someone who's had little to no friends growing up anyhow.

>Ryne also said in a cutscene in game Gaia is the first friend she had that was near her age. We don't know the actual age of the twins at that point but Rynes line implies she's younger.

No. But we can assume they're at least 17 in terms of maturity. 16 being sourced from Tales from the Calamity, and 1 year added on top of that, spent in the First. That's all we can safely do with the FFXIV story time bubble

In any case, Ryne is confirmed to be 17.

Ryne Waters

A maiden of seventeen summers, Ryne inherited Minfilia's soul and wields the powers of the Oracle of Light. She was taken into Eulmoran custody as a child, and prior to her liberation by Thancred at the age of fourteen, had lived almost her entire life as a prisoner. Having thus been deprived of a normal upbringing, she had difficulty interacting with others at first, and gave the impression of being younger than her years, but while roaming the land with Thancred, the Hume girl learned the ways of the world along with the arts of combat. As she fought alongside the Warrior of Darkness to restore blessed night to the First, Ryne found her purpose as well as the courage to fulfill it. Though she had been known as Minfilia until that point, after being entrusted with her namesake's legacy, she began to forge her own. Cherising fond memories of those she loves, she strives with all her being to realize her dreams as she continues her journey to adulthood. Despite her burdens, like most any youth, she enjoys relaxing in the company of friends, and is partial to sweets--coffee biscuits most of all.

> And the fact it's a copy of another scene doesn't confirm anything. They can take aspects of another game but changes things if they want.

They can. That doesn't change the fact that they tend not to.

[Remish]

No passive aggressiveness here. I'm just being plain and stating the obvious to anyone with a high school education. I see you're on Balmung. Do American schools not teach basic intertextuality and symbolism and literature analysis?

How does Balmung = American? You do realize that Canada is apart of NA as well right? Guess all EU Balmung players are automatically American now.

[Krokov]

No passive aggressiveness here. I'm just being plain and stating the obvious to anyone with a high school education. I see you're on Balmung. Do American schools not teach basic intertextuality and symbolism and literature analysis?

Because genuinely, the answer is screaming you right in the face, and you're choosing to put a blind eye to it.

If it is "just a headcanon", then please answer the following:


* Why is the Crystal in the Empty rainbow-coloured rather than blue with a white tint on the bottom like every other Aetheryte crystal on the First?

* Why did they recreate the Squall and Rinoa cutscene down to the individual head movements in combination with camera angles, not to mention transitions? Down to the way Gaia and Squall falters? Down to the angle that Squall/Gaia sees Rinoa/Ryne?

Again, Final Fantasy 8 is a love story. This cutscene, in the original has a romantic overtone. They chose to recreate this in extreme detail. That is not an accident. And to pretend that this also doesn't make the FFXIV version have a romantic overtone is to spit in the face of not only Final Fantasy as a series, but all story writers and artists in general.

Why is the Crystal multicolored? Because the colors represent the elements that you were bringing back to the Empty. (Earth, Fire, Wind/Air, Water, Thunder, Ice)

[Davixxa]

Why is the Crystal multicolored? Because the colors represent the elements that you were bringing back to the Empty. (Earth, Fire, Wind/Air, Water, Thunder, Ice)

See, that's a great explanation that unfortunately does fall flat when you think about it.

Earth, Fire, Wind/Air, Water, Thunder and Ice is literally every single element, plus Shiva also being Light, and The Cloud of Darkness being Dark.

So that's the entirety of the elemental wheel, in which case, it should be Neutral (or a little skewed towards Light, given that we're on the First), and should be blue like every other Aetheryte in the game at that point.

EDIT: Clarity and wanting to direct this back into a more civil and calm debate.