Zero: Trans or Lesbian, or Both?

[Bonoki]

Take your transphobia elsewhere.






A trans woman is still a woman, there's literally no one saying she isn't a woman




Except the rainbow crystal that was present after the raid (which was the first of its kind, mind you! Also, the ones in Bestways Burrows are obviously artificial - the one we see in Eden obviously isn't), the almost shot-for-shot recreation (link to a side-by side comparison)of a scene between Rinoa and Squall with Gaia taking the role of Squall and Ryne taking the role of Rinoa (down to subtle detail and camera angles! Mind you, FF8 is a love story), and the FF8 love theme playing at the very end as well.

Also, I'd pay close attention to what happens in the Crystals in E12. Not just the voice lines, but what's physically going on. Not to mention them holding hands in the 5.4 patch artwork.

Sure, nothing confirmed anything. But to pretend all the evidence isn't there is asinine. Especially given Japanese companies don't tend to outright confirm these things, but everything points to them being in the same kind of relationship as Squall and Rinoa, lol

They are just friends until the evidence strictly says otherwise. Until then, it's headcanons.

[Davixxa]

They are just friends until the evidence strictly says otherwise. Until then, it's headcanons.

In that case, Squall and Rinoa are also just friends.

[Bonoki]

In that case, Squall and Rinoa are also just friends.

What happens in other video games has zero barring on what happens in FFXIV. Different universe, different situations filled with fan service. Take things with grains of salt until officially confirmed

[Davixxa]

What happens in other video games has zero barring on what happens in FFXIV. Different universe, different situations filled with fan service. Take things with grains of salt until officially confirmed

Sure as hell has a lot of bearing when you have a raid series that goes out of its way at multiple points to give direct callbacks to recreate story beats from the original. In any case, it isn't headcanon - it is called basic media literacy. This is as blatant as it gets without outright saying it.

"Ah yes, this raid series is retelling a love story, but instead of a guy and a girl, they're now two girls. Never mind the fact that the original is a love story, we're showcasing the characters holding hands in literally the key artwork for the culmination patch, we recreate a scene specifically dedicated to the main character of the original being lost and finding their way through their lover caring, and we even go as far as to recreate subtle touches with the animation. We also placed a rainbow crystal in there, wonder what relevance that has in modern culture? Eh, must just be friends."

Never mind the fact that this game is no stranger to introducing queer characters. They're just not as in the limelight as this. There is an entire trope about very, very obviously lesbian couples being reduced to "just being friends" in media - and you are perpetuating it. It is genuinely tiring.

[Bonoki]

Sure as hell has a lot of bearing when you have a raid series that goes out of its way at multiple points to give direct callbacks to recreate story beats from the original. In any case, it isn't headcanon - it is called basic media literacy. This is as blatant as it gets without outright saying it.

"Ah yes, this raid series is retelling a love story, but instead of a guy and a girl, they're now two girls. Never mind the fact that the original is a love story, we're showcasing the characters holding hands in literally the key artwork for the culmination patch, we recreate a scene specifically dedicated to the main character of the original being lost and finding their way through their lover caring, and we even go as far as to recreate subtle touches with the animation. We also placed a rainbow crystal in there, wonder what relevance that has in modern culture? Eh, must just be friends."

Never mind the fact that this game is no stranger to introducing queer characters. They're just not as in the limelight as this. There is an entire trope about very, very obviously lesbian couples being reduced to "just being friends" in media - and you are perpetuating it. It is genuinely tiring.

The only genuine tiring thing is that you can't accept its head canon.

[Davixxa]

The only genuine tiring thing is that you can't accept its head canon.

No. It is basic media literacy. It is not my fault you're incapable of understanding basic subtext. Especially basic subtext in a game where Sappho, the person that is the literal reason the word "lesbian" means "women attracted to women" in English, canonically exists.

[Bonoki]

No. It is basic media literacy. It is not my fault you're incapable of understanding basic subtext. Especially basic subtext in a game where Sappho, the person that is the literal reason the word "lesbian" means "women attracted to women" in English, canonically exists.

You're getting way to overly defensive over a head canon. You should probably chill from the forums since you are starting to become passive aggressive about it.