Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
Really? Getting a relic from doing 50 or so Fates isn't a handout but doing it through however many variant dungeon clears is suddenly no longer "working for it"? Doing a dozen or so clears of current Alliance raids is no longer working for it?
It's just laughable to say that mindless fate spam was somehow "less of a handout" or "meant anything", it's just contrarianism and MMO boomer stuff to say that old=good and new=bad.
these were never hard to do, there was never any working for it. It was an annoying grind in the past and they listened to feedback to make it less annoying.

The removal of one time steps was some of the best parts of this one as well. Having to do a grind, getting 0 reward from it other than the "right" to start another slogging grind was not fun. In the current steps they listened to feedback and there is no part where you think to yourself "this sucks why am I not getting progress towards my relics?", if you're doing level 90 content, you are getting at least some progress given towards your weapon.
Sure, I guess some people could decide to actively go out and farm variant dungeons, but that is an individual decision. I genuinely do not understand why this is so hard to understand. Being given a specific task - farm 50 FATES, clear DRN 5 times, clear Alliance Raids 4 times, obtain these specific times with GC currency or gil or 20,000 poetics, whatever the task is, it gives it meaning. You are obtaining a relic by doing a quest which then becomes an earned reward. It's a completely different thing to someone deciding, on their own, to give themselves their own individual head cannon journey to obtain their relic.

The vast majority of people are not spending their Causality tomes on anything so, when a new step releases, hey presto: you have your next relic step within a few minutes of the patch releasing. And then, if you are doing your roulettes or pvp (which you probably were going to do anyway), you can get another relic. And another. And another. There is no sense of achievement which this relic and it becomes no different to a standard tomestome weapon. Hell, the Comedy tomestome weapon is more of an earned reward, due to you having to do P12N X times and spend a limited tomestone currency on it.