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    It definitely would've, but apparently Japanese players didn't like the idea of westerners going into their servers, and in turn DC travel became regional. It's a massive shame that Materia ended up on the chopping block for that, with no one wanting to lose friends, and the server ending up pretty dead even though a lot of players would gladly play there just for ping alone.

    Maybe we can have Materia be an exception for cross region travel? I'd gladly visit for gameplay as well as to meet up with old friends who did take the plunge and moved.

    Improvements to the games networking should also be explored, making animation lock not be affected by ping and having some compromise between client player position and server player position when AoEs go off would help out a lot with slower connections. There'd be less of a need for extra data centers if the downsides of higher ping were mitigated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No, I am very sorry, but no more datacenters, and I sincerely hope they dont do it, ever.

    They could barely fill materia and dynamis, materia is a ghost town, basically on life support, and Dynamis is extremely quiet that people cant even queue any sort of content there that requires more than 5 people.

    Stop asking for more dcs, the game does not have the population for it.
    Different question, and not a good take.

    Dynamis is a ghost town because there are three other NA DCs and DC travel (within a region) exists.

    It's hard to say if a South + Central America DC would work out better than OCE or not, but it's important to note SA + CE has a larger population than OCE would have.

    A for the translation: It's always been odd to me that there's a German and French translation but no Spanish. French I could see since it had a lot of colonies and thus a lot of speaker, but Spanish is estimated to be the 4th most spoken language in the world (after English, Mandarin, and Hindi), above French (5th) with Spanish being close to 2x France's numbers (first and second language; and Spanish is around 5x the native speakers), and well above Germany (12th) with close to 5x and 7x respectively first and second language speakers. I'm honestly surprised there's not a Spanish translation yet. At the very least in text if they didn't want to redo all the voice acting for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Different question, and not a good take.

    Dynamis is a ghost town because there are three other NA DCs and DC travel (within a region) exists.

    It's hard to say if a South + Central America DC would work out better than OCE or not, but it's important to note SA + CE has a larger population than OCE would have.

    A for the translation: It's always been odd to me that there's a German and French translation but no Spanish. French I could see since it had a lot of colonies and thus a lot of speaker, but Spanish is estimated to be the 4th most spoken language in the world (after English, Mandarin, and Hindi), above French (5th) with Spanish being close to 2x France's numbers (first and second language; and Spanish is around 5x the native speakers), and well above Germany (12th) with close to 5x and 7x respectively first and second language speakers. I'm honestly surprised there's not a Spanish translation yet. At the very least in text if they didn't want to redo all the voice acting for some reason.
    I really dont care about/mind a spanish translation of the game, if anything you'd think it would already be in the game considering how played this game is by over a million people daily.

    And no, for a new DC, I stand by what I said earlier, that's less people on other datacenters, including Dynamis, we dont need even more of a spread in NA DC's, Dynamis is already struggling thanks to DC travel, we dont need YET ANOTHER DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Different question, and not a good take.

    Dynamis is a ghost town because there are three other NA DCs and DC travel (within a region) exists.

    It's hard to say if a South + Central America DC would work out better than OCE or not, but it's important to note SA + CE has a larger population than OCE would have.

    A for the translation: It's always been odd to me that there's a German and French translation but no Spanish. French I could see since it had a lot of colonies and thus a lot of speaker, but Spanish is estimated to be the 4th most spoken language in the world (after English, Mandarin, and Hindi), above French (5th) with Spanish being close to 2x France's numbers (first and second language; and Spanish is around 5x the native speakers), and well above Germany (12th)…
    It’s not just the population but the general wealth that affects the size of the customer base. While there are very wealthy people in SA, the vast majority cannot afford a subscription at NA prices. Despite a smaller number of players in the overall gaming scene, the French and German markets bring a lot more revenue.

    Some numbers (also consider that close to 25% of Canada’s population is French speaking too and there are other countries):

    https://newzoo.com/resources/ranking...-game-revenues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    It’s not just the population but the general wealth that affects the size of the customer base. While there are very wealthy people in SA, the vast majority cannot afford a subscription at NA prices. Despite a smaller number of players in the overall gaming scene, the French and German markets bring a lot more revenue.

    Some numbers (also consider that close to 25% of Canada’s population is French speaking too):

    https://newzoo.com/resources/ranking...-game-revenues
    Honestly these are just excuses at this point because most games that give multilangual options have spanish included because its still a common enough language to warrant it. You seriously underestimate the latino/euro market.

    Anyway they cant do it anyway. The game has gone so bloated with text and cutscenes that adding a new language is pretty much impossible at this point. Itll take a miracle if they ever do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I really dont care about/mind a spanish translation of the game, if anything you'd think it would already be in the game considering how played this game is by over a million people daily.

    And no, for a new DC, I stand by what I said earlier, that's less people on other datacenters, including Dynamis, we dont need even more of a spread in NA DC's, Dynamis is already struggling thanks to DC travel, we dont need YET ANOTHER DC.
    The hilarious thing is that if they just implemented some form of benefit to do content on your own DC/stripped DC travel away, Dyna would actually be able to develop.

    I don't think there's a lack of people, I think there's a mentality that's deeply engrained in the NA community now to do all content on Aether to the point that it's affecting other bigger DCs like Primal.

    Super excited to see how bad the congestion is Day 1 of Dawntrail on Aether ngl lol. Might actually force people back to their own DCs to do the expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    The hilarious thing is that if they just implemented some form of benefit to do content on your own DC/stripped DC travel away, Dyna would actually be able to develop.

    I don't think there's a lack of people, I think there's a mentality that's deeply engrained in the NA community now to do all content on Aether to the point that it's affecting other bigger DCs like Primal.

    Super excited to see how bad the congestion is Day 1 of Dawntrail on Aether ngl lol. Might actually force people back to their own DCs to do the expansion.
    I agree, I'm not really finding dyna to be empty per say, I think seraph just absorbed like 90% of the people transfering, the dc population isnt actually THAT bad and could become lively, that is if people stopped to dc travel all the time (which I am myself guilty of because its impossible to do anything right now on dyna)

    Hopefully in the future things change, but it seem to be pretty much the norm at this point to go to Primal for PVP, crystal for venues and Aether for PvE content, and I dont think it's changing anytime soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Honestly these are just excuses at this point because most games that give multilangual options have spanish included because its still a common enough language to warrant it. You seriously underestimate the latino/euro market.

    Anyway they cant do it anyway. The game has gone so bloated with text and cutscenes that adding a new language is pretty much impossible at this point. Itll take a miracle if they ever do it.
    I am not saying there is no market but we’re talking about a 10 yr old game based on a monthly subscription model and this type of decision is normally a pure business decision. Estimated market size for the type of game, risks such as economic stability/variation of currencies, sourcing, SE’s own lack of experience with the market are all factors that likely came into play at the time of making the decision.

    I grew up and spent half my life in Latam, continue to spend time and doing business there and have always been part of Spanish gaming communities btw. The main reason for not playing this game that I keep hearing is the sub price converted from USD. On top of that, Spanish speaking ppl in in the Americas are tied to the US for the subscription which is also the most expensive at 12.99-14.99/month vs the EU (10.99 € -12.99€ ) and UK (£7.69-£8.99). Only Brazil has a local much cheaper sub price. Conversion rates and fees add to it too. This is not a cheap game to play.

    Would the decision be different today? Maybe, maybe not. The Latam market and gaming scene has changed a lot since the game was released and continues to grow every year and local talent, in particular in Brazil, is being developed.

    Could SE eventually decide to make a Spanish and Portuguese (Brazil) translation? It’s not entirely impossible. ESO did it for Spanish last year but FFXIV is a different game and is a lot more text heavy and, for having tried both the French and English versions, contain several differences and include cultural references that would make no sense in the other language. Of course more people would be playing if the game was available in Spanish or Portuguese but in the end it all depends on SE’s own business decision and risk assessment (i.e do they think the investment to gain a new market -not counting existing FFXIV Spanish/Portuguese speaking players as they already bring in revenue - would be worth it for them?). Steam has some localized pricing but it is still pretty high in Spanish speaking countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    On top of that, everyone in the Americas is tied to the US version which is also the most expensive at 12.99-14.99/month vs the EU (10.99 € -12.99€ )and UK (£7.69-£8.99). Conversion rates and fees add to it too.
    Yeah but we pay using regional prices from steam. Our monthly subscription in Brazil in R$28.99 instead of R$65.60-R$75.99. FFXIV has the lowest price for a live service here, cheaper than netflix or WoW.
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    I would support a south american DC because it would make easier to find my Nhaama


    Jokes aside, i don't know. From one side, my best online experiences were playing in international servers, from the other side, translation and local DC would make FFXIV more popular here. HOWEVER, the MMORPG market see us as lovers of that 'good' and old free to play + pay to win competitive games with questionable design choices like Perfect World.
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    hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

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