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    Interesting thought but, as far i know, the pre-production has begun even before the release of the expac and after the release is normally a break and shortly after full on production. This means this thread is not for Dawntrail, its for the follow xpac after DT. But i like the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    When I saw that we were going from Broil III at 290 potency in ShB to Broil IV at 295 potency in EW, I was shaking with how excited I was. I couldn't believe they were so generous with a whole 5 potency. I'm going to probably scream in excitement when 7.0 comes out and Broil V hits 300 potency, playing SCH going to be WILD once it hits 300!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Interesting thought but, as far i know, the pre-production has begun even before the release of the expac and after the release is normally a break and shortly after full on production. This means this thread is not for Dawntrail, its for the follow xpac after DT. But i like the idea.
    No it's fine. My understanding from 10 years of listening and reading what they say, they begin production right after the .3 patch. Before that it's just planning and ideas. Around the .4 patch we start to get fanfest where they reveal what they've done so far and concept art for what they haven't done.

    They have actually made a lot more progress this time than they had at the first fanfest in prior expansions, because they were able to show us screenshots of a lot of zones, whereas in Shadowbringers for example a lot of it was just concept art at that time.

    But as there is still about 8 months most likely, there is probably still time for them to make some major changes but that will be running out. I remember the media tour version of the game that content creators get to play is from 4 months prior (so 5 months prior to the release of the expansion), so the time for suggestions is certainly getting close to running out.

    Not that suggestions matter in the English forum. They are in Japan and speak Japanese.

    They do already do this for quests, so it is certainly possible. It would also be interesting to implement ChatGPT so you can talk to them and get responses in-character. But most likely SE will be late to the party with this and do it after every other game has done it already.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It would also be interesting to implement ChatGPT so you can talk to them and get responses in-character. But most likely SE will be late to the party with this and do it after every other game has done it already.
    I don't want that. I want the writers to have control over the characters and what they say, not outsource their script to an AI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't want that. I want the writers to have control over the characters and what they say, not outsource their script to an AI.
    Oh, I don't mean that the MSQ shouldn't exist. I mean between the MSQ, just less important conversation that uses the current MSQ lore and recent dialogue by the developers as a basis for the AI output, rather than just repeating the same thing for 4 months.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Oh, I don't mean that the MSQ shouldn't exist. I mean between the MSQ, just less important conversation that uses the current MSQ lore and recent dialogue by the developers as a basis for the AI output, rather than just repeating the same thing for 4 months.
    No, that's what I'm talking about too. I would rather that the characters say one scripted thing that the writer wants them to say, rather than having to talk to them again and again to see what is in their dialogue pool.

    For a fixed script it doesn't matter that they're going to "repeat the same thing for four months", because you don't need to talk to them during those four months. You talk to them once, see everything that they have to say and then put the MSQ aside until it's time for the next chapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't want that. I want the writers to have control over the characters and what they say, not outsource their script to an AI.

    I want to break the ChatGPT until Urianger has a breakdown and starts insulting me
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    i only want daily MSQ GONE or heavily Reworked! like....i truly dont understand why keep pushing the same scenarios over and over and over....unskippable nonetheless ....ugh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by keichirou View Post
    i only want daily MSQ GONE or heavily Reworked! like....i truly dont understand why keep pushing the same scenarios over and over and over....unskippable nonetheless ....ugh!
    I barely do daily roulette anyway, It bores me to be honest. I don't have much time playing the game and recently I have been doing MSQ so that is what I spend my time on but after that I'm looking at leveling, crafting/gathering, sanctuary island, raiding, relic weapons, glamour that I have yet to really dive into. There's so many thing to do, they don't all interest me or even excite me, sometimes you're just looking for something else when you lose passion for the game. More options is always better so I am interested to see what they add to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    No it's fine. My understanding from 10 years of listening and reading what they say, they begin production right after the .3 patch. Before that it's just planning and ideas. Around the .4 patch we start to get fanfest where they reveal what they've done so far and concept art for what they haven't done.

    They have actually made a lot more progress this time than they had at the first fanfest in prior expansions, because they were able to show us screenshots of a lot of zones, whereas in Shadowbringers for example a lot of it was just concept art at that time.

    But as there is still about 8 months most likely, there is probably still time for them to make some major changes but that will be running out. I remember the media tour version of the game that content creators get to play is from 4 months prior (so 5 months prior to the release of the expansion), so the time for suggestions is certainly getting close to running out.

    Not that suggestions matter in the English forum. They are in Japan and speak Japanese.

    They do already do this for quests, so it is certainly possible. It would also be interesting to implement ChatGPT so you can talk to them and get responses in-character. But most likely SE will be late to the party with this and do it after every other game has done it already.

    I would love if i could talk to the characters
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