DRK - AST/AST/AST - The frontline meta

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

First of all, massive rant at you and anyone who feel the need to say "fire them" on every occasion you feel inconvenienced because the state of the game is not perfect:

Take a f***ing hike. I am so seriously fed up with your and anyone's hyperbolic bullsh** because apparently it is too difficult to constructively say that you disagree with the current game design and instead call for people to be fired - because this will CLEARLY result in you being heard.

You all work in jobs or have relatives working in jobs, how would you feel if on every f***ing occasion some outside twat calls for you to be fired because you delivered something they consider subpar but got greenlit by your boss?



...now for the topic at hand... cap AOE at 5 targets instead of the default 16 or make a sharp 80% drop-off after the 5th target. That should do the trick.

[AnotherPerson]

...now for the topic at hand... cap AOE at 5 targets instead of the default 16 or make a sharp 80% drop-off after the 5th target. That should do the trick.

That's not the problem, and capping AoE is especially dumb considering you can't choose who you're going to hit. I've seen groups of people use any type of combo before and they can be defeated with random groups. If you need a hard counter to that type of group, just grab a couple of SGE and use SGE LB when you see them using the AST using their LB. It's a direct counter to the combo and can easily allow your alliance to turn the tables after nullifying their burst.

From my experience, the problem isn't the combo but the sandbaggers. There's been a lot more people I've noticed who intentionally run in to die and let other alliances win. They would generally have a very imbalanced kill-death-assist ratio and a high heal amount from spamming recuperation after running it down 1v24 (or more recently 5v24). Even when you defeat the people using a strong team combo, if the people who are doing their best to lose run to the enemy alliance to feed them BH and reduce your score while bumping the enemy alliance's score, it's going to be much tougher to win regardless of what happens next.

Lately, it's been increasingly apparent when I saw the enemy third alliance run towards the base of the second alliance to stop the second alliance from reaching and stopping the 1st alliance from winning a match, even when there was no objectives in the enemy base.

[Mayhemmer]

That's not the problem, and capping AoE is especially dumb considering you can't choose who you're going to hit. I've seen groups of people use any type of combo before and they can be defeated with random groups. If you need a hard counter to that type of group, just grab a couple of SGE and use SGE LB when you see them using the AST using their LB. It's a direct counter to the combo and can easily allow your alliance to turn the tables after nullifying their burst.

It very much is the problem here. Also, Macrocosmos is on a 30s cooldown, snapshots almost instantly, and hits any target in a 20 yard radius, more if the servers hate you. Meanwhile Mesotes takes longer to activate, even longer to actually apply the invuln to party members, only applies it to party members, only covers the area the size of a cramped elevator (which your party members may not even stand in anyway), and is on a 120 second cooldown. (Edit: I also forgot that it doesn't protect you from CC, so you can even be pulled out of the circle, which is a high likelihood in FL.)

That is not a direct counter...

If you're looking to try to straight up out-shield AST's dmg output, Scholar is a better choice if you don't trust your party to Guard, and even then there's only so much you can do against 2 or more AST's with damage buffs.

[Valence]

That's not the problem, and capping AoE is especially dumb considering you can't choose who you're going to hit. I've seen groups of people use any type of combo before and they can be defeated with random groups. If you need a hard counter to that type of group, just grab a couple of SGE and use SGE LB when you see them using the AST using their LB. It's a direct counter to the combo and can easily allow your alliance to turn the tables after nullifying their burst.

That would be a very good option if those defensive LBs affected the whole alliance, which they don't. Obviously, you can still get great value in defending your own party, but that doesn't compare to offensive LBs that are non discriminate.

[maximesan514]

First of all, massive rant at you and anyone who feel the need to say "fire them" on every occasion you feel inconvenienced because the state of the game is not perfect

Dude. the game has been released for 10+ years, and we still are yet to see improvement. Everytime they did something they deleted it... 10 years.

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Like hs how hard is it to work on the game and stop trying to milk all the wage slave that literally worship daddy yoshi P. How can you even defend this.. like yes they need to get fired, they need to figure something out.

Frontline should of never been touched, it was fine the way it was just before 6.1, maybe even reworked, how long did it took for them to remove Carteneau to work on it... like what ? 10 Years ? yeah

The game is filled with cheaters and bots on top of it, gil sellers everywhere. like at some point some things need to be addressed if you want to keep farming these people. anyways..

[Mayhemmer]

Dude. the game has been released for 10+ years, and we still are yet to see improvement. Everytime they did something they deleted it... 10 years.

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I didn't know they deleted fantasias! Why didn't anyone tell me :O

my god we have to stop them, before they start deleting us!

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Dude. the game has been released for 10+ years, and we still are yet to see improvement. Everytime they did something they deleted it... 10 years.

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Like hs how hard is it to work on the game and stop trying to milk all the wage slave that literally worship daddy yoshi P. How can you even defend this.. like yes they need to get fired, they need to figure something out.

Frontline should of never been touched, it was fine the way it was just before 6.1, maybe even reworked, how long did it took for them to remove Carteneau to work on it... like what ? 10 Years ? yeah

The game is filled with cheaters and bots on top of it, gil sellers everywhere. like at some point some things need to be addressed if you want to keep farming these people. anyways..

First of all, since you are clearly not aware, here some game development studio 101:

• A game with variety content such as FFXIV has a multitude of individual development and design teams with individuals specializing in certain content, others being more broadly skilled that can work between branches
• Income related to the game does not automatically correlate to development funding within a studio like Creative Business Unit III, nor are all development branches equally responsible for being the source of said income
• Different people may be available at different times when developing on projects, yet they generally go through a form of QnA, greenlighting or last check before pushing live, so SOMEONE in a managing position APPROVED

Regarding the income sources you mentioned, here is who is responsible or where you can most likely attribute the work to:



Fan Festival in particular is not a guaranteed source of income - it is a huge financial undertaking regarding renting the venue, support staff payment, IT setup, sound setup, management and much more, of which there is plenty of room to go wrong and cost an exorbitant amount of money. It can be considered finanically a success if they break even under the assumption that it provided positive PR, leading to more and consistent revenue mainly via subscriptions and occasional mogstation purchase.

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To summarize, there is a lot more to think about than your minor inconvenience played as absolute disgrace. I am not "defending" them as I regularly criticize the results they bring on occasion. What I do is trying to make people like you aware, that your minor inconvience played as absolute disgrace is not a valid f***ing reason for anyone at any company to get fired because you are medieval and essentially ask for the modern equivalent of rolling heads.

It doesn't matter how many years have passed, what has been lost forever, how many current issues are currently around - if the game is not in a "literally cannot play this game" state a la FFXIV pre 2.0 then grotesque feedback like "fire the dev responsible for this" will put your feedback at the absolute bottom of things to consider.

Sincerely, back off and stick to complaining about the game directly, this will net you better results.

[maximesan514]

Sincerely, back off and stick to complaining about the game directly, this will net you better results.

I'm gonna be honest man, its just very sad to see the game just get worst instead of getting better.. the development is clearly overlooked because people are emotionally addicted. All these fetch quest and boring events.. all the cheaters... the bots... its just sad man.. anyways, I get your point on complaining about the game but its just getting a little bit much. Maybe its time for me to unsub but I'm addicted like everyone else. I never took my complaints to this forum until this year, I always had hopes but looking at it today its just.. idk...

[Valence]

Personally I also think you should be fired and have you and the family that depends on you thrown out to starve into the street because I'm butthurt and think you're doing an awful job at your job.

( yes, this is sarcasm, but this is still as disgusting to read )

[Cesarion]

As if they have time for a family, lol