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    Quote Originally Posted by JepMZ View Post
    And everyone didn't comment about Gobez's face reveal because he wasn't Azem and is just some guy they never seen
    Appearance means nothing. See: Ardbert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Appearance means nothing. See: Ardbert.
    Ardbert literally is the promotional stand-in for the Warrior of Light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisi View Post
    Ardbert literally is the promotional stand-in for the Warrior of Light.
    That's the point? He looks nothing like me. So why should anyone else's appearance indicate whether they are a WoX fragment or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    That's the point? He looks nothing like me. So why should anyone else's appearance indicate whether they are a WoX fragment or not?
    The characters we play aren't the "canon" Warrior of Light. I mean, they are in the narrative sense, but cosmetically they're just a sort of stand-in. The WoL's actual, official appearance is that of the Derplander, I'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    The characters we play aren't the "canon" Warrior of Light. I mean, they are in the narrative sense, but cosmetically they're just a sort of stand-in.
    There is no reason to believe that. The NPCs have opportunities to remark on how much Ardbert physically looks like the player character, and they never do because it would be ridiculous for someone to do so if the player character is anything but a midlander male. It is more reasonable to conclude that Ardbert's appearance as a shard of the WoX has nothing to do with the WoX's appearance, and any characters whose shards resemble them do so by coincidence or narrative convenience, not as a general rule of shard characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    That's the point? He looks nothing like me. So why should anyone else's appearance indicate whether they are a WoX fragment or not?
    It's a meta bridge between your character and Ardbert. You could make the same argument about Azem, why would their appearance/gender indicate a connection to the WoL? Yet still they follow our gender.

    I got into this frame of thought after arguing with Cleretic about the same thing. I argued there was no reason for Azem to share our gender in light of Ardbert or potential other shards unless they were literally us, she argued Ardbert was meta-connected to us via appearance, so Azem was meta-connected in a different way, because the writing is just pretty gut based and has to establish connections like that to not fly over our heads. I actually agree with that line of thought now, XIV's writing counts on the players being relatively simple-minded and not think about it too much. So the same would go for Golbez, their appearance would be a secret to allow us a better means of identification with or sense of agency over them by allowing us to imagine them however we like.
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