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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Unbridled arrogance and Intro to Philosophy references don't automatically make you sound intelligent or educated, either, just FYI.
    Opinions are free, and arrogance is earned. Most schools are underfunded pieces of garbage that fail to teach children how to read, write and act at grade level compared to their private counterparts.

    I also don't feel the need to sound intelligent. That naturally happens, but you are showing your issues by targeting them.

    You also never stated that I was wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Eh, let them spout their nonsense day in and day out. It is good entertainment. It's like the tabloids. Nobody in their right mind takes it seriously. I drop by these forums daily for a good giggle. People here think their wordy thought vomit matters.
    I doubt you've read a tabloid and it’s not a good thing if you do. It's video game lore. You can't get any more insignificant regarding the importance of something, so, of course, it's nonsense. I also don't think my wordy vomit matters. That's why it's in a forum on FF14 and not to a politician. For it to matter, you would need to matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    First, thank you for your first post in this thread, where you curb-stomped Endwalker's narrative. <3 Secondly, thank you for continuing to post. You've alluded to some stuff that I've always found interesting (though I do wish you'd spell Emet right).
    You are welcome. Odd, the script made it this far, considering it's logically inconsistent. The franchise writers are prone to massive leaps of logic, scope and ability regarding their characters and themselves. This leads to dues ex machina-type situations and a cast of Mary sues, which are unrelatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Plato's Theory of Forms has issues. The issues it has mostly relate to mental perception and agreement on what the concepts behind the forms are. Like Plato believed abstracts like beauty or power are more real than any individual thing that presents them within itself. To assume this is true means one has to completely agree on what beauty or power is defined as. And it's only we the meat that make the definitions.
    Yes, Plato believed that the shape matter was subject to the world of forms, though I'm afraid I have to disagree with your take on people agreeing with precise definitions because that doesn't define the essence of the concept. One man can find a stunted corpse beautiful and another a wonderous piece of art, but that doesn't change the fundamental nature of a concept, only how it's brought forth as they are still experiencing the same thing but with different mediums, when it comes to power for example it simply the act of dominating the environment and those around you, you could have your opinion on the best way to do that, but it doesn't change the fundamental premise of the concept. This is why Plato used the example of a chair, you can have many forms of a chair, and you can disagree on what constitutes the best or how it should be made, but the essence of the idea is the same. For example, suppose you use a computer. In that case, the concept of the computer will remain the same no matter how it looks because the innate concept has almost nothing to do with looking the same as other pieces of technology. The idea of a computer performs a specific function, which is to compute things. Even if I travelled back in time or even forward, I could still recognise one or someone performing a good example of this would be in the Dune series with Mentats. If I brought someone from the 18th century and showed them a gun, a boat, or a house, for example, they would still know what it is.

    I also agree that two cannot be separate and that one cannot exist without the other but the more you try to merge the two the more you are actually going to see a huge disparity between them and not only that the more you try the more your own innate understanding of the universal concept will improve.
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    Last edited by Alec97; 10-08-2023 at 09:05 PM.