What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Lunaxia]

Yeah, fair enough. You're right in that I can't convince people beyond reason or understanding.

...I was talking about you. Under no circumstances is it ever acceptable to fly into an absolute rage and respond like that because you feel slighted against or attacked. You might feel hurt, or frustrated, or misunderstood by what people say, and that's normal, but the way in which you perceive what you hear and how very deeply and personally you take it is incredibly aggressive and concerning, to the point if I knew you in real life, I would feel quite wary. You take remarks on your posts and behaviour as attacks on you and can't differentiate between the two, and you also need to learn that while you may say one thing, that is not how it is coming across or appearing to someone else. Sometimes unconscious biases can seep through you're not aware of, and at times like that, perhaps reflect on what you hear rather than screaming at everyone else.

I'm also going to offer you some advice here, and I hope you will take this as advice and heed it, and not an attack: consider seeking professional help. If by any chance you are the good person you are purporting yourself to be, then I think a lot of it is being lost in personal issues you might not realise you're carrying. I really do mean this with the best of intentions, for you and those around you.

Let me just say this, and I mean it in all honesty and with all respect: it's not worth it. These same folk been complaining since 6.0 and will complain until 6.55 and probably beyond. If you liked it, that just has to be enough; ignore the hate, because it's not going to stop..

Are we still pretending this entire thread is just "hate" when the criticism is now being largely shared by the community across the board? Why would it be any different when if anything, most people actually agree the story has taken a stark downward slope since Endwalker?

This is what everybody here has been saying: mindlessly tarring everything said here with the same brush to lump it into one dismissive category is not reasoned discussion, and acting shocked when you get a rebuttal is silly on the face it.

[Renathras]

...I was talking about you.

In that case: Then you were wrong.

And look, you need to stop insisting things about people that aren't true. I was in no "absolute rate", and look, you were the one that read me saying "some people hate stuff, but some people just have different tastes, and that's okay", and you perceived that as a personal attack to which you responded very aggressively, did you not?

I differentiate between people critiquing arguments I make and people insulting me personally. For example "I disagree with your argument here, and here is why..." is not an attack on the person. "You are responding in bad faith and have a history of..." is an attack on the person. That should be clear...

...but why am I bothering? You aren't going to listen and you, despite your own sage advice, don't see you're doing the things you're accusing me of.

That said, I appreciate your best intentions and take that at face value of you being a decent person. My recommendation to you is to read what you just wrote here and in the post that I replied to above. Then go back and read this post:

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And this post:

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And ask yourself if you might need to listen to your own advice. In both cases, you took what I said as some kind of piercing personal attack, even though it wasn't (my first post wasn't directed at anyone, didn't mention anyone, didn't quote anyone, and I don't even recall interacting with you like this before such that you'd have any reason to think it DID apply to you in the first place). And in both cases, you responded aggressively. And in the second case, when you accused me of something - your first post accusing me of expressing false concern is an attack, btw - and I explained to you it was genuine concern, what was your response?

"No, it wasn't". You didn't listen to what I said, you didn't let me explain. You already decided you were personally insulted and you weren't going to let go of that since it was justifying your behavior. If you were wrong and I wasn't personally insulting you, it would mean your first post (and second) were uncalled for.

In essence, it looked like you flew into an absolute rage and responded like that because you felt slighted against or attacked.

You just said it is under no circumstances ever acceptable to behave as you did, right?

Yet...you did.

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Again, I know you won't listen, but on the off chance maybe you aren't beyond reason, I'm saying in the hopes that you do. I don't believe you're a bad person, but you did what you just accused me of doing. And before I did it, at that.