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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Not in the least when other MMO's, such as WoW and ESO, have no issue allowing players to interact with a broader variety of character archetypes - and even play them themselves, if they so wish.
    but this isn't wow or eso? 14 is a story about us the good guys always doing good and being good. if you feel at one point or time we weren't that's good if you ask me cause that would be the whole point in a story.

    but in the actual game world we will always be good and our decisions will always be perceived as the right ones as that's what the game is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    but this isn't wow or eso? 14 is a story about us the good guys always doing good and being good. if you feel at one point or time we weren't that's good if you ask me cause that would be the whole point in a story.

    but in the actual game world we will always be good and our decisions will always be perceived as the right ones as that's what the game is about.
    The game, by its own admission, heavily takes inspiration from WoW and various other games. To the point of outright doing crossovers with completely different franchises altogether at times.

    There's many different potential routes that the writers could take moving forward and the game can preach what it likes, no player has any obligation to perceive anything a particular way or even agree with it. Admittedly I don't really self insert in this game to the point many other FFXIV players seem to. Even as a roleplayer, I gave up on trying to roleplay in this game on the basis of the player being granted so little agency or meaningful dialogue choices.

    I'm not sure how any of that equals an inability to have characters with more varied personalities to appeal to a broader variety of personal tastes, though.

    The single player Final Fantasy games have no issue providing a main cast with more variety in terms of personalities and belief systems and it's perfectly possible for a story to bring a band of characters from very different backgrounds together to work alongside each other for the sake of a shared goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    The single player Final Fantasy games have no issue providing a main cast with more variety in terms of personalities and belief systems and it's perfectly possible for a story to bring a band of characters from very different backgrounds together to work alongside each other for the sake of a shared goal.
    i didn't say it wasn't possible i just said that wasn't the story ff14 was giving. ff14 is the simple you are a good guy and your teammates are the same.

    heck the new dawntrail story is going to be chucked up to one side gets swindled by the bad guy and when you defeat him and put the ruler who sides with you morally in charge they will see the error in their ways. as that is how ff14 works story wise, the best out come besides that happening is the bad guy turns his thoughts around and lets the other guy lead for some weird ambiguous reason. but those are roughly the two options that will happen.

    if someone likes a story like that or not i can't decide for people but that's how simple the story works. maybe just maybe someone may die since we havent had a scion death since what papalymo? as re-killing off minfilia doesn't count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    but this isn't wow or eso? 14 is a story about us the good guys always doing good and being good. if you feel at one point or time we weren't that's good if you ask me cause that would be the whole point in a story.

    but in the actual game world we will always be good and our decisions will always be perceived as the right ones as that's what the game is about.
    Except as I believe stated earlier if you found objection to how the story let Venat off with as worse of crimes as her enemies the whole "You are a good hero" falls kind of flat and makes it very hard to continue with the patch content that seems to not want to let the topic die in Pandemonium and Myths. My character doesn't really feel like who she was in previous expansions anymore because of the way the game glossed over Venat's actions and has been slowly taking away the more serious choices in conversation for more humorous ones. To me a lot of the modern patch content writing has made my character feel severely out of character and as if she lost several braincells sometime before Endwalker. Again that is my own view on it at least, the game no longer feels like it is taking as great of care with the serious implications of it's story and that is reflected in the writing and presentation of the characters.
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