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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    He stopped playing because he doesn't play any game for long (except WoW and he got bored of that when he discovered his audience now follows him to other games). He could barely even finish FF16 and I think he didn't do NG+. He has a massive backlog of games he's been putting off for ages. It's just how he is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldath View Post
    Two things: first, Asmongold is an arse and a clout chaser, FFXIV was "hot" during COVID, then he moved onto the next hot thing, LA.
    You know, I think both the group who thought their favorite streamer betrayed them for stop playing, and the group who thought they stop playing because of the community - assuming they're being genuie (although I think the latter is just trolls) - are just ... naive.


    I watched a few of these "ex-WoW" streamers compared FF14 to WoW around 2 years ago and it was ... cringe. Like, I life FF14, but the praise and comparison these streamers had for the game back then was so out of proportion that I was like "ok, FF14 is good but it's not THAT good." So it became obvious to me fairly early that it wouldn't last. One, it definitely felt more like the "next hot thing" moment. But secondly, and more importantly, I felt these streamers were just borrowing FF14 and its community as a beating stick and outlet for their dissatisfaction with WoW. In short and bluntly: FF14 and the more gullible portion of its community was used, as simple as that.


    It's like someone who got into a fight with their partner, then decided to pick you as a new date. And while they may praise you to high heaven how much more special and better you are comparing to their old date ... the reality is you're just a convenience and temporary subtitle with the sole purpose of making their original partner jealous. Now, if you have good head on your shoulder, you just accept it as a temporary thing as enjoy it while it last. But anyone who think that would amount to any kind of long term relationship then ... naive, too naive.

    Edit: 'cause I just remember the stuffs from other thread. I should add a 3rd group into this naive narrative, it's the people who thought FF14 can keep the majority of WoW refugee by appealing to them. You're like that destined fling who believe they make person forget their old fire and stay with you. That ... most likely not gonna happen.



    Like I said, I never thought FF14 were as good as MOST of these streamers claimed 2 years ago. But 2 years later, I'm still here while most of them already gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    You know, I think both the group who thought their favorite streamer betrayed them for stop playing, and the group who thought they stop playing because of the community - assuming they're being genuie (although I think the latter is just trolls) - are just ... naive.


    I watched a few of these "ex-WoW" streamers compared FF14 to WoW around 2 years ago and it was ... cringe. Like, I life FF14, but the praise and comparison these streamers had for the game back then was so out of proportion that I was like "ok, FF14 is good but it's not THAT good." So it became obvious to me fairly early that it wouldn't last. One, it definitely felt more like the "next hot thing" moment. But secondly, and more importantly, I felt these streamers were just borrowing FF14 and its community as a beating stick and outlet for their dissatisfaction with WoW. In short and bluntly: FF14 and the more gullible portion of its community was used, as simple as that.
    Exactly, very good choice of words and analogy. I was out of WoW long before it went the way it is now, but even in my longest staying period within an MMO, Gw2, the community used FFXIV as a threat. "Things suck here, I'm going to FFXIV". I have to say I was one of the people who fell for it. I hadn't even played FF and I kept comparing GW2 to it because it was supposed to be the golden standard for MMOs.

    Look, I went away from Gw2 because of how mismanaged it is, and because of other issues with the longevity of content and lack of future proofing, and people said there was this promised land of MMOs where all my grievances with Gw2 would be forgotten and honestly...We're kind of in the same situation. I'm still enjoying FFXIV and I don't see myself stopping soon, but I learnt my lesson
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    Last edited by Aldath; 09-29-2023 at 03:44 AM.