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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Shout out to that one streamer who realized this and stalled so hard that people got sick of him and dropped his stream and then he also got accused of sexual assault or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by WeebPolice View Post
    Ah, the infamous Rich Campbell, citizen. No one has heard from him since.




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    Yeah, that's Rich Campbell alright. He was actually a decent streamer from what I remember up until the sexual assault accusation was made against him. He had everything going for him and he threw it all away, lol.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Guy was part of asmons org too which was the sad part

    I hope he never shows his mug online ever again

    Yeah, OTK. He ain't ever coming back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman View Post
    Yeah, that's Rich Campbell alright. He was actually a decent streamer from what I remember up until the sexual assault accusation was made against him. He had everything going for him and he threw it all away, lol.

    Yeah, OTK. He ain't ever coming back.
    Citizen, you should've seen the video circulating online at the time of when he was first accused. He was streaming with a friend when he received the news.




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    Never mind what Asmongold does. Clearly the game and community is good enough for you to stick around, so isn't that all that matters?
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    Quite literally, who cares? These posts are getting absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverQ View Post
    Quite literally, who cares? These posts are getting absurd.
    there really isnt i just felt like weighing in on it tho
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    If anyone's grappling with this, pretend you were reading a thread titled "Why did <your name here> stop playing FF14 if FF14 is so good with a good community?" and maybe the answer will be clearer.
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    Eh, given the nature of a community, whether it is the best or not is just going to be anecdotal.

    Communities have a wide variety of people and a wide variety of sub-communities and cultures, so really it's no more toxic, and no more better than any other community.

    Given the right circumstances you could literally claim any gaming community is the best ever -- Similarly, you could make a pretty reasonable claim that any gaming community also has the worst ever. Just depends on personal experience when you're dealing with communities this large. Sometimes it just seems like people feel so invalidated if someone has a different experience or opinion.

    On the note of Asmongold, personally, I chalk it up for a variety of reasons. He's a very large figure in the streaming and MMO space, so his swapping would have accrued a lot of new audiences watching who aren't entirely familiar with how he actually streams, and what he dedicates his time to when streaming, e.g., react content. Personally, I don't care, I just stopped watching outright after a certain point - But I can understand why it would probably aggravate people.
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    He stopped playing because he doesn't play any game for long (except WoW and he got bored of that when he discovered his audience now follows him to other games). He could barely even finish FF16 and I think he didn't do NG+. He has a massive backlog of games he's been putting off for ages. It's just how he is.

    He doesn't really like gaming much. He admits he's not good at games and they just make him frustrated on stream. He prefers react content (watching youtube videos) and his audience prefers that too actually because it allows him to stop the video and say hot takes and controversial opinions every minute, which is what he's good at and makes him more popular.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    Isn't it interesting how even Asmongold had to quit? Despite this being the "best community"?
    Don't think it was even this community particularly, but his. His community like "react content". When they want him to react to something, they spam his chat endlessly. They wanted him to react to FF14 (because FF14 is basically a video spanning ARR and 4 expansions). He didn't want to play it that frequently so he had to ban a lot of people over it so that they stopped asking him to react to FF14.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Two things: first, Asmongold is an arse and a clout chaser, FFXIV was "hot" during COVID, then he moved onto the next hot thing, LA.
    Second, the community itself isn't overly hostile but it isn't the bastion of good vibes. We just have a lot of "UwU OmO" people in Cities using Yell, and also lots of LGBTQ+ presence, which gives the impression that it's a very tolerant place when in reality said groups are mostly concentrated in specific Worlds.

    Try initiating a random conversation anywhere, odds are you'll be ignored, most conversations are either between FC cliques, or taking about/complaining about the game or current duty. Sure, your won't be told to KYS, and for some that's enough nowadays to consider this a friendly community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    He stopped playing because he doesn't play any game for long (except WoW and he got bored of that when he discovered his audience now follows him to other games). He could barely even finish FF16 and I think he didn't do NG+. He has a massive backlog of games he's been putting off for ages. It's just how he is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldath View Post
    Two things: first, Asmongold is an arse and a clout chaser, FFXIV was "hot" during COVID, then he moved onto the next hot thing, LA.
    You know, I think both the group who thought their favorite streamer betrayed them for stop playing, and the group who thought they stop playing because of the community - assuming they're being genuie (although I think the latter is just trolls) - are just ... naive.


    I watched a few of these "ex-WoW" streamers compared FF14 to WoW around 2 years ago and it was ... cringe. Like, I life FF14, but the praise and comparison these streamers had for the game back then was so out of proportion that I was like "ok, FF14 is good but it's not THAT good." So it became obvious to me fairly early that it wouldn't last. One, it definitely felt more like the "next hot thing" moment. But secondly, and more importantly, I felt these streamers were just borrowing FF14 and its community as a beating stick and outlet for their dissatisfaction with WoW. In short and bluntly: FF14 and the more gullible portion of its community was used, as simple as that.


    It's like someone who got into a fight with their partner, then decided to pick you as a new date. And while they may praise you to high heaven how much more special and better you are comparing to their old date ... the reality is you're just a convenience and temporary subtitle with the sole purpose of making their original partner jealous. Now, if you have good head on your shoulder, you just accept it as a temporary thing as enjoy it while it last. But anyone who think that would amount to any kind of long term relationship then ... naive, too naive.

    Edit: 'cause I just remember the stuffs from other thread. I should add a 3rd group into this naive narrative, it's the people who thought FF14 can keep the majority of WoW refugee by appealing to them. You're like that destined fling who believe they make person forget their old fire and stay with you. That ... most likely not gonna happen.



    Like I said, I never thought FF14 were as good as MOST of these streamers claimed 2 years ago. But 2 years later, I'm still here while most of them already gone.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 09-29-2023 at 02:24 AM.

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