The Many Deaths of Final Fantasy XIV

[Saraide]

I just realized that the way OP wrote their post reminds me a lot of the way the namazu tribal cutscenes were written which came out several years later. Truly a visionary ahead of their time.

[Kyrj]

I'm gonna pull a Pyro here and stop reading about 2/3 of the way through.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Time to add taco graha, the new world, and vacation scions with Dawntrails first tease.

The doom posting will never stop. Some people here on the forums need a reminder that, no, people weren't always happy and things weren't always greener. This thread is the proof of that.

[Rolder50]

Necroing a post from 2014? Get some help.

[Fyrebrand]

Necroing a post from 2014? Get some help.

Meh, I'm on board with it. Not to dismiss real issues, but some people act like we're living in the "End Times" of FFXIV, but depending on who/when you ask it has always been the End Times.

You can find people who say FFXIV is dead, WoW is dead, ESO is dead, GW2 is dead. They've all been "dead" for years and years, even when new content is being made for them.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Necroing a post from 2014? Get some help.

This one's still relevant, and has been updated over the years .





The last post isn't from 2014. And the last post from the OP is post shadowbringers.

[Avoidy]

Recently I've started watching the "Worst MMO Ever" series on youtube, and in it the narrator, Josh Strife Hayes, uses a term called "quit moment." This is a point in a game where players might feel like it's just not worth continuing due to the sheer amount of BS they've just been hit with. I don't believe the things people mention in this thread are enough to kill the game, obviously. The game is still here. But I do believe they qualify as quit moments for various people. For example, the most recent thing to resurrect this pertinent thread was the mention of Dawntrail's release trailer. But I'd go a step further and add the recent interviews Yoshida did, where he basically doubled down on gameplay elements that many people on these "feedback" forums have criticized for years. Learning that the devs basically don't care about feedback and probably won't stop dumbing things down until every job is as boring as WHM, is a quit moment for anyone who enjoys this game for its gameplay elements. Likewise, most of my closest friends no longer play this game anymore, and their "quit moment" was when they realized how long the game went without content despite being a subscription game. "Pay for 3 months [at the time] of nothing?" they said. "No way." and they quit, and never felt the urge to return. After they uninstalled, some of them also admitted that simply reinstalling the game would be such a pain in the ass that they couldn't be bothered. The bizarre difficulty involved in just acquiring the game at all, is imo another quit moment. I could go on but I won't.

I think dawntrail's gonna be hella successful at launch, and then its player numbers will fall off a cliff until 7.1, where we'll see another slight bump, followed by another dip until 7.2, with the overall returners getting lower and lower until it hits an all time low in 7.5. Then we'll see a huge spike for 8.0, followed by more of the same. This pattern's always been a thing and if you can accept it, that's great. But for people who enjoy the game for its multiplayer elements and maybe want to, idk, form a guild or maintain a static, it can be really difficult to keep those things going when everyone's trying to quit and the game doesn't even try to keep them around. Basically this pattern sucks balls for anyone trying to actually get shit done, and so that pattern eventually becomes its own quitting moment.

[sindriiisgaming]

but the game isnt deing.. its still the best game on the market... right now the game is in bad health due to content luls and poor cash shop decisions, but its not deing at all. and theres no real evidence to claim otherwise (i swear if u try to cite that luckbanchos thing-) during dawntrail the game will improve in players again and people will priase the game all over. this is simply how this games life goes. do i hope for fixed, god yes. but i wont pretend the game is gona die anytime soon

[Iscah]

Likewise, most of my closest friends no longer play this game anymore, and their "quit moment" was when they realized how long the game went without content despite being a subscription game. "Pay for 3 months [at the time] of nothing?" they said. "No way." and they quit, and never felt the urge to return.

I haven't played other MMOs to compare, but isn't that just the structure of the game? You pay for access to play the game in its current state, and "the current state" gets updates every so often. You're only paying for nothing if you don't actually want to play during that period.

[Renalt]

I haven't played other MMOs to compare, but isn't that just the structure of the game? You pay for access to play the game in its current state, and "the current state" gets updates every so often. You're only paying for nothing if you don't actually want to play during that period.

Unless it's City of Heroes Homecoming. A game that the NCSoft dropped the ball on and the fans picked it up and ran like Forrest Gump. And yes...they are still running that ball. It still gets new Power Sets and "patches" ( Called Issues ) and quite often.