Make healers DPS with four or five healing actions

[Sebazy]

Healers shouldn't DPS.

What do you propose healers do when they don't have anything to heal? Solo content/downtime/casual content etc.

[TheDustyOne]

What do you propose healers do when they don't have anything to heal? Solo content/downtime/casual content etc.

/beesknees, /mandervilledance, and /playdead between healing moments, what else?

/s

[ZenoDiogenes]

What do you propose healers do when they don't have anything to heal? Solo content/downtime/casual content etc.

Obviously, they need to keep the DPS spells to do solo content, but make them insignificant for DPS checks while raiding.
The game should put you in a position where you have to reactively or predictively decide how you apply your heal kit on every GCD or OGCD.

In essence, I would rather be busy healing my group back up as filler than throwing a bunch of glares at the boss.
It ruins the job fantasy for me.

[Maltothoris]

Obviously, they need to keep the DPS spells to do solo content, but make them insignificant for DPS checks while raiding.
The game should put you in a position where you have to reactively or predictively decide how you apply your heal kit on every GCD or OGCD.

In essence, I would rather be busy healing my group back up as filler than throwing a bunch of glares at the boss.
It ruins the job fantasy for me.

Well the thing is everything in this game is predictable. It's hardly every reactive. For one, fights are scripted and damage is scripted. Two, they've got on record for saying they don't want the healing to be too overwhelming for new players. This basically puts in a hard place because you have veterans clamoring for years for higher heal checks. heck we even gotten higher checks for Abyssos and look what happened. We had a healer shortage for the duration of that tier before they went easier for this tier.

[TheDustyOne]

The game should put you in a position where you have to reactively or predictively decide how you apply your heal kit on every GCD or OGCD.

Yeah, this can't happen, at all, not even in Ultimate.

The amount of incoming damage needed for that would put so much strain on the average player that we'd have to force tanks and DPS to pick up the slack and also get them to perfectly mitigate and use their healing just to give the healers some room. What then happens if a healer slips up and casts the "wrong" healing GCD? Does most of the group suddenly drop dead because you used a single target heal instead of AoE? If there is some leeway to let you have a mistake or two, congratulations, you've now given a potential window to let us DPS again.

No MMO allows for healing to be THAT strict.

If the end result is just that you want healer DPS to never matter in a fight, such that you can beat enrage without casting a single DPS spell, well that still won't work because healers that do DPS still finish the fight faster, which in turn skips dangerous mechanics, which further negates the need to heal, and people don't appreciate having a team member who sits there near-afk for most of the fight because health bars were full. If you just want the DPS spells to be so negligible in content, then you in-turn make them useless in solo content as well unless you intentionally set healer-only rules like a solo-only buff. All this does is completely negate a playstyle that many enjoy (being able to risk doing damage as a healer to help finish a fight faster) to make another preferred playstyle the ONLY playstyle (hEaLeRs OnLy HeAl), when currently, outside high-end content, you can already do the latter without infringing on the former. We could have 50 extra DPS spells and it still wouldn't matter in casual content if you only ever wanted to heal.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Yeah, this can't happen, at all, not even in Ultimate.

The amount of incoming damage needed for that would put so much strain on the average player that we'd have to force tanks and DPS to pick up the slack and also get them to perfectly mitigate and use their healing just to give the healers some room. What then happens if a healer slips up and casts the "wrong" healing GCD? Does most of the group suddenly drop dead because you used a single target heal instead of AoE? If there is some leeway to let you have a mistake or two, congratulations, you've now given a potential window to let us DPS again.

No MMO allows for healing to be THAT strict.

If the end result is just that you want healer DPS to never matter in a fight, such that you can beat enrage without casting a single DPS spell, well that still won't work because healers that do DPS still finish the fight faster, which in turn skips dangerous mechanics, which further negates the need to heal, and people don't appreciate having a team member who sits there near-afk for most of the fight because health bars were full. If you just want the DPS spells to be so negligible in content, then you in-turn make them useless in solo content as well unless you intentionally set healer-only rules like a solo-only buff. All this does is completely negate a playstyle that many enjoy (being able to risk doing damage as a healer to help finish a fight faster) to make another preferred playstyle the ONLY playstyle (hEaLeRs OnLy HeAl), when currently, outside high-end content, you can already do the latter without infringing on the former. We could have 50 extra DPS spells and it still wouldn't matter in casual content if you only ever wanted to heal.

Actually had plenty of times in older mmos where damage output was so high I had no time to do anything other than various heals, defensive buffs, and cleanses. But I agree combat hasn’t been designed for challenging healing here.