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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Or MMO players have grown up enough not to care about what is "culturally relevant" and they aren't interested in the mobile games.

    They play what is fun to them, not what social media tries to convince them to play.

    I'd agree that most younger adults will have little interest in MMOs these days - unless they grew up playing them side-by-side with their parents, relatives or other friends who were introduced by their own families. They're too used to mobile gaming since mobiles phones are so widespread and easy to get now while mobile phones weren't at the height of MMO popularity. They were starting to get mainstream but weren't quite there yet.

    You sound like you're trapped in a bubble of your own.
    most offline games have a co-op multiplay feature, so they can already feel like a MiniMMo (mh online ps2 felt this way for me, and i was addicted to it because it had other players)
    Mmos imo will never die out, because they capture something that offline, non coop games dont capture. a way to hang out with people without having to go outside, doll urself up or spend large amoutns of money. i think there will ALLWAYS be a market for them. every game today has some kinda online co-op that they owe to MMOS, also some MMOS have insanly large populations like 14, OSRS and retail WOW. parents get there kids into it, friends play with other friends, after school activities. i think MMO is a healthy genre tbh, and that if making the game more like modern games gets more people into mmos, thats better all round for MMO health since the genre expands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    ive been playing wow classic and while its lack of QOL does frustrate the hell out of me (especially using a controller mod) i am enjoying the return to a classic mmo feel, and i think i could be content having each on the side. ik 14 has its issues, many of them im sure will get fixed. but 14 is just never gona be the best of wow. and perhaps thats for the best because even the best of wow is still very polarising
    That is the right attitude to take for sure. If you enjoy classic WoW play it. I personally did my time in WoW all those years ago and I have since moved on from it. It wasn't my cup of tea anymore. I tried going back for the first time this last year and I didn't last a week so to each their own. I'm old enough to know what I like and what I don't. Have fun!
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    Enjoy Life you only get one.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I unironically miss the days when I would have whaled hardcore for this game but the lack of care with stuff like the Iceheart attire and yet another trailer full of cringe and eyeroll worthy dialogue just puts me off FFXIV even more.



    It's giving how do you do fellow kids energy.
    this set is going to be extremely popular with the RP/Club community. ive seen so many mods for similar attire way before this game was even deing. will i personally use it for such? hell no.. maybe the glasses for mch.. or those cool green boots... the rest i doubt
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post

    A game in which people buy MULTIPLE mounts and glams in duplicates for their main character and their alts (sometimes a lot of them), at FULL PRICE, even if people would leave in droves at this point, what is called the "whales" aka people buying every single mog station item and even buying it in duplicates would keep SE afloat just with that, the good old argument of "just quit and vote with your wallet" doesnt work in FFXIV because of that.
    people keeping multiple active accounts with boosted characters are whales, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    people keeping multiple active accounts with boosted characters are whales, too.
    Never said the opposite now did I ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Never said the opposite now did I ?
    Smh cant believe stormpeaks is singlehandedly making it so voting with your wallet doesnt work, how could you?? /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Smh cant believe stormpeaks is singlehandedly making it so voting with your wallet doesnt work, how could you?? /s
    I'm sorry, I've been trying to hold back on my powers but it's just too much
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    Sensationalist drama with no proof to back up the claims? Wonder who it could be! Man, you have a lot of accounts and free time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    Happened 15 years ago, and will never happen again.

    Poll the average person and none of them will know what an "MMO" is but they'll know what Candy Crush or Fortnite is.
    Once again, we ask for you to prove ANY of your statements. Poll them. On you go. I'll start at my JOB! Where I WORK! And see the SUN'S BLESSED LIGHT! Who funnily enough ALSO play games and are all really into Baldur's Gate 3 right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    You dont want him to go back to his modern glam driving the regalia sig now, do you?
    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Kid with shirtless demon twink avatar unironically calls something else cringe, news at 11.
    you have no idea how much I hate the demographic that represents the race/gender i play in game...
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 09-25-2023 at 09:28 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    How exactly is current design gonna appeal to young gamers? Are they talking only about Japanese young gamers who like VNs? Or did CBU3 get their metrics from global player profile ages? Because let me break you the news: most people who chose 18 as their age and play this game probably aren't.

    I like the game, but I have no idea which "modern gamer" would put up with the 300 hours of fetch quests followed by at the very best 10 minutes of actual gameplay. He mentions Fortnite in an interview from 4 DARN YEARS AGO, but that game currently and very ironically has you more time engaging with the game systems than FFXIV. I'm currently in Post-SB quests and I feel bad for whomever gets DT and has to put up with the absolutely thrilling experience of teleporting around for almost 20 minutes to speak to Nanamo because she needs to deliver exposition, I0m at a point where I just read a story summary every post patch to know up to which point I'll just skip dialogues and it's usually three quarters of the patch storyline.

    They want to attract new players but do absolutely nothing to improve the completely misserable climb to newer content, they have added Duty Support to make MSQ more accessible, but they have done nothing to make the game more engaging. Sure, wow, now I can advance at a snail's pace this very easy dungeon that will teach me nothing about how to play with others without getting into a long queue if I don't pick one of the two most boring roles in the game, but whenever I get to play with others things keep either dying before they can do anything interesting, or things kill us so fast that we have no idea what went on. People exaggerate when they say players in this game are unskilled, the problem si that the game does NOTHING to push the players to become better and it has, historically, had terrible difficulty scaling, with Normal content being chill one moment and then pushing the players off a cliff without warning to the point it gets nerfed into an absolute slog.

    Younger players will leave because there are more engaging and "fast" things to play. Horny 50 year olds who made a catgirl and got lost in the myriad other endless systems will discover ERP and Venues and stay because of parasocial relationships and addiction.
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