Young players are not going to play FF14

[Stormpeaks]

i get your point, i dont agree with it, but i get it..
but i have to call you on your hyperbole of a argument. you can't say: "I'm X, and the game cant attract X" while also being X and a paid subscriber.

y'all want change? but not as bad as you want to keep a virtual house. you want a revolution but are not willing to sacrifice for it. so you will will only ever get what you already have.

Imagine saying this knowing we play FFXIV...

FFXIV.

A game in which people buy MULTIPLE mounts and glams in duplicates for their main character and their alts (sometimes a lot of them), at FULL PRICE, even if people would leave in droves at this point, what is called the "whales" aka people buying every single mog station item and even buying it in duplicates would keep SE afloat just with that, the good old argument of "just quit and vote with your wallet" doesnt work in FFXIV because of that.

The biggest evidence of that is the new Iceheart Attire from the mog station, people spread everywhere that it was literally already in the game, and yet people are still buying it, some even on multiple characters.

[KitingGenbu]

Imagine saying this knowing we play FFXIV...

FFXIV.

A game in which people buy MULTIPLE mounts and glams in duplicates for their main character and their alts (sometimes a lot of them), at FULL PRICE, even if people would leave in droves at this point, what is called the "whales" aka people buying every single mog station item and even buying it in duplicates would keep SE afloat just with that, the good old argument of "just quit and vote with your wallet" doesnt work in FFXIV because of that.

The biggest evidence of that is the new Iceheart Attire from the mog station, people spread everywhere that it was literally already in the game, and yet people are still buying it, some even on multiple characters.

So, just keep giving them money and complaining about 10-15 times a day per account, right? The guy's point isn't that unsubbing is going to solve their problem. His point is that people just like to complain without doing anything about the issue on THEIR part.

That being said, I've been around long enough to know what will and wont change in this game and it goes back to a point I made in another thread that some people have to accept that what they want from this game just wont come to pass. Unless a new director of the game is going to be appointed, the core of the game will be the same with some experimentation along the way (or reductions, i.e. how many dungeons we used to get per patches over the years). People can talk about the state of the game all they want and speculate the reasons behind declines/increases/whatever (all the while never including external factors which just shows how naive they really are imo), but its not going to change anything. Someone is more than welcomed to direct me to a time where all these threads made them change the direction of the game though (outside of diadem being garbage and restructures 2-3 times, but honestly that's more of a metric based decision instead of complaining).

[Stormpeaks]

So, just keep giving them money and complaining about 10-15 times a day per account, right?

Not what I'm saying, personally the way I see it is :

If a person dislikes certain things in the game but loves others things also in the same game, then there really is no reason to unsubscribe, that's my case personally, I dislike the content because not only do I find it boring because of the lack of difficulty, but I find the jobs themselves extremely boring just as much, but I also really like the social aspect of this game, housing, the PvP (CC in particular) I really like to do and the crafting system is more fun than where I came from which is WoW, if I want my dose of content I just play WoW, if I want anything else social related or what I mentioned above I open up FF, playing both in my eyes is the way to go.

Now if a person dislikes everything in the game, which really is something sorta popular on this forum at this point, it really is, especially from older players, then perhaps its just an usual routine of playing the game they've had for years, they just want the game to improve and go a certain way, and since it doesnt, well people complain and try to get things in a "better shape", I am not here to tell them wrong, nor are you, it's their opinion.

I myself complain quite a bit especially regarding the lack of content because I would love to play the actual content in this game, but sadly in its actual state it's just too boring in my view, that mixed with the 2 minutes meta and the boring jobs is just yuck, and take in mind I've only been here for 2 years, and I also dont count "catch 2000 fishes" as content, that's just an achievement.

TLDR : If you like certain parts of the game, you have no reasons to unsubscribe, keep enjoying them and give feedback related to the parts you dislike and what would get you to like them, if you despise the game in its entirety, perhaps a different game might be best.

[aveyond-dreams]

I unironically miss the days when I would have whaled hardcore for this game but the lack of care with stuff like the Iceheart attire and yet another trailer full of cringe and eyeroll worthy dialogue just puts me off FFXIV even more.



It's giving how do you do fellow kids energy.

[Reap00]

The "former MMO player" Yoshi P wishes to appeal to young players.

At first you'd think they're trying to entice traditional FF players, but Duty Support is hardly the main problem of the game.

Second Life crowd? Let's be honest, that's accidental, JP doesn't have a huge ERP scene to sustain the game there.

With recent interviews it's now clear who exactly they're trying to cater to - and ruin the game in the process. Young gamers. A nebulous, ill-defined player segment that they don't themselves understand. They're bringing up examples like Fortnite. Square Enix thinks FF14, along with the rest of their product line, should evolve to chase these young players. Which is why we have things like FF7: Battle Royale edition.

Give up now, CBU3. No 14 year old is going to play a tab targeting MMO with a 2.5s GCD that makes you read hundreds of hours of dialogue.

You know what they said about turn based RPGs? The market is dead, no one is going to play it anymore. Sure, young people might not play turn based RPGs, but surprise, if you make a good RPG, people flock to it. You get critically praised.

Maybe FF14 should start trying to be the best MMO it can be instead of chasing clouds.

Go outside.

[CidHeiral]

...how cringe the current story is.

Kid with shirtless demon twink avatar unironically calls something else cringe, news at 11.

[Avoidy]

Honestly good. One of the few things I liked about this game's community was that there weren't a bunch of 16 year old kids running around.

[NekoMataMata]

Honestly good. One of the few things I liked about this game's community was that there weren't a bunch of 16 year old kids running around.

Speaking from experience, those 16 year olds aren't going to be safe here.

[Vyrerus]

Thread is a somewhat failed premise. XIV already attracted younger kids earlier in its life cycle. Who the younger kids are now has changed though. FFXIV 2.0 and beyond has never tried to appeal to older gamers. It recycles a lot of older FFs because the designs are all owned and done, which speeds up the content creation.

Beyond this, they've endeavored to make XIV appeal to mainstream audiences, i.e. non-gamers or new gamers. They have largely succeeded. This is why gameplay is secondary to many many people who subscribe to it.

[Saraide]

Kid with shirtless demon twink avatar unironically calls something else cringe, news at 11.

You dont want him to go back to his modern glam driving the regalia sig now, do you?