Should the devs appologise to the community

[LittleImp]

Odd cause I've heard literally no one say this...
Where are these cases? Where is this info coming from?

Existing in the community. Spending 5 minutes talking to other people. Being an officer in medium/large Free Companys for many years. I've been administrating communities, running raid teams, and arbitrating disputes between players since Heavensward.

How do YOU know any of these claims are true?

Because I've seen it happen first hand, and even been harassed myself.
I've had to remove people from FFXIV related communities on many occasions for violating peoples boundaries and being extremely disgusting, and without fail they were overwhelmingly people who were deeply involved in the 'Venue' scene and had their super modded characters plastered all over the place. I've never experienced something like this to this extent on any other game, except for maybe PSO2 which also attracts these types of people like a magnet.

This can't be a "I've seen it a few times so that means the game is now "known for degeneracy" cause that's not how it works.

Do you know what happens you open this games tag on Twitter? Do you play other multiplayer games and engage with their community? This game has developed an external reputation for being full of degenerate behavior. One of the most notorious articles ever published about this game was about its brothel scene lol. There was a point where I stopped telling people I played this game, because I was tired of dealing with the inevitable 'Oh isn't that the game with a bunch of dudes cybering as catgirls' responses.

Also can I just say, Snorky simply spoke of venues which could be anything per definition. Why did you jump immediately to "degens"? Is that what you consider most venue goers or something?

Venues that aren't focused on adult content are in the minority, and the people who end up attending them tend to be part of the adult venue scene anyway. Adult venues absolutely dominate the scene, at least here on NA.

[Nebelheim]

Existing in the community. Spending 5 minutes talking to other people. Being an officer in a medium/large Free Companys for many years. I've been administrating communities, running raid teams, and arbitrating disputes between players since Heavensward.


Because I've seen it happen first hand, and even been harassed myself.
I've had to remove people from FFXIV related communities on many occasions for violating peoples boundaries and being extremely disgusting, and without fail they were overwhelmingly people who were deeply involved in the 'Venue' scene and had their super modded characters plastered all over the place. I've never experienced something like this to this extent on any other game, except for maybe PSO2 which also attracts these types of people like a magnet.


Do you know what happens you open this games tag on Twitter? Do you play other multiplayer games and engage with their community? This game has developed an external reputation for being full of degenerate behavior. One of the most notorious articles ever published about this game was about its brothel scene lol. There was a point where I stopped telling people I played this game, because I was tired of dealing with the inevitable 'Oh isn't that the game with a bunch of dudes cybering as catgirls' responses.



Venues that aren't focused on adult content are in the minority, and the people who end up attending them tend to be part of the adult venue scene anyway. Adult venues absolutely dominate the scene, at least here on NA.

I transferred to crystal for a few months because friends convinced me to a few years ago and every venue seemed to be 18+ and had experiences where people were disgusting and went beyond my boundaries no matter how many times i denied wanting to do stuff. There is more erp now then actual story driven rp now and it's so hard to find people that want to do story/character driven rp. It got to the point i told my friends i wanted to go back to primal after bad experiences and blacklisting people who didn't know how to take no for an answer. I had to report someone who would sit outside my house for days and lock my house up because they would invite randoms to erp at my house and nothing happened to them.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Existing in the community. Spending 5 minutes talking to other people. Being an officer in medium/large Free Companys for many years. I've been administrating communities, running raid teams, and arbitrating disputes between players since Heavensward.


Because I've seen it happen first hand, and even been harassed myself.
I've had to remove people from FFXIV related communities on many occasions for violating peoples boundaries and being extremely disgusting, and without fail they were overwhelmingly people who were deeply involved in the 'Venue' scene and had their super modded characters plastered all over the place. I've never experienced something like this to this extent on any other game, except for maybe PSO2 which also attracts these types of people like a magnet.


Do you know what happens you open this games tag on Twitter? Do you play other multiplayer games and engage with their community? This game has developed an external reputation for being full of degenerate behavior. One of the most notorious articles ever published about this game was about its brothel scene lol. There was a point where I stopped telling people I played this game, because I was tired of dealing with the inevitable 'Oh isn't that the game with a bunch of dudes cybering as catgirls' responses.



Venues that aren't focused on adult content are in the minority, and the people who end up attending them tend to be part of the adult venue scene anyway. Adult venues absolutely dominate the scene, at least here on NA.

You can speak for your server and your server only tbf. Maybe you just don't get out much or automatically assume things about the majority based on the minority you've interacted with. I've been to plenty of venues that are just chill bars with nothing extra going on. In my years I've had 1 person stalk me and this wasn't even due to a venue. Dude just saw me in Ul Dah and harassed me all the way back to my house. Can I say he was part of the 18+ scene for sure? No. I don't have that info. Btw having boundary issues and being in the venue scene aren't always hand in hand. One can be present without the other.

The folks you speak to may think the game is full of what you claim. The folks I speak to dont. Just what it is. You're still off for speaking as if the venue scene is just full blown degeneracy. Also just to add something simply nsfw doesn't equal degeneracy.