Summoner 7.0 Wishlist

[LoadedVirus]

Seems people are more split on the Summoner than I thought, some people seem to want DPS classes to not be able to rez/heal, others seem to want the old Summoner back while others seem to want another re-haul. Interesting to see, I see Summoners used quite a bit so I thought people were fairly happy with the direction it was going in... can't keep everyone happy I guess.

[remiff]

Seems people are more split on the Summoner than I thought, some people seem to want DPS classes to not be able to rez/heal, others seem to want the old Summoner back while others seem to want another re-haul. Interesting to see, I see Summoners used quite a bit so I thought people were fairly happy with the direction it was going in... can't keep everyone happy I guess.

The job's visual design is interesting, but the issue is that the gameplay has been very poorly developed and suffers from numerous problems.

-The job falls into the caster category but is more of a ranged physical DPS, making it quite challenging to balance the caster role, especially when there's a summoner with 99.9% mobility in the game.

-They completely obliterated the previous iteration without planning for a replacement job that drew inspiration from the old summoner's gameplay,
there was still a sizable player community who enjoyed the old job. I'm not against a complete rework, but the majority of this community despises the new summoner precisely because it retains none of the concrete elements from the old one, especially not the best aspects.
Moreover, it has transitioned from a job that required careful management and thoughtful play to one that epitomizes extreme simplicity.

-Yoshi-P marketed the summoner rework as a mobile caster with genuine strategic choices depending on the situation. In reality, this isn't particularly the case, except for Ifrit's gap closer.

-The system for pet management has been completely abolished in favor of a carbuncle that does nothing more than occasionally put up shields.
Additionally, this carbuncle is unavailable during the summoning.

-Since the majority of spells lack any real depth, many people believe that 80% of the spells are nothing more than visually glorified Ruin spells.
The summoner seems to be a level 60 job, and apart from the level 86 trait, the gameplay hardly evolves, even before reaching level 60.

In essence, some want a return to a (DoT) job like the old summoner, while others like the current summoner because it's too easy.

Many believe that the job has potential but needs significant changes without a complete overhaul, including adding depth to gameplay, reducing mobility slightly, and introducing a genuine resource management system.

And a bit more spells that aren't limited to just 4 buttons, especially ones that are more interesting. They could draw inspiration from old summoner mechanics that worked well, such as the egi-assaults, the 4-stack Ruin 4 for when mouvement was crucial,
the Phoenix 1-2 combo, the mechanics of the old Dreadwyrm Trance. from Stormblood to unlock a new burst phase (use a ressource for unlock the transe) etc,...

Sorry for the wall of text, it's not usually my style of message.

[LoadedVirus]

That's fair, I don't think they will do another dot class since they seem to have removed most of the dots from the game excluding Blue Mage, I can understand why some people would feel slighted. Summoner currently is definitely different flavours of Ruin spam for sure. I like it however so I can't exactly argue against it.