Thread: Summoner 7.0 Wishlist

Remove Physick and Resurrection from Summoner

Originally Posted by Nizzi

Remove Physick and Resurrection from Summoner

There is no way someone puts a better suggestion than this in the thread

+1 on Physick scaling with Intelligence, if they’re going to leave it with Summoner.

Would also like if Carbuncle contributed instead of sitting around waiting for you to use Radiant Aegis lol. Even if it’s just something as simple as using Wind Blade as an auto-attack. I think giving Carbuncle should act as the ‘utility’ Summoner, so giving it one or two more helpful/supportive abilities would help make it feel less like a minion that follows you into combat. They could make them all share charges so there’s some actual decision making. Obvious issue there though is that Carbuncle disappears like 75% of the time lol so you’d be locked in/out of them constantly.

I’m mostly ambivalent on ‘what summon to get next’, in that I’d be happy with anything really. That said, I’d like Shiva and Ramuh to be added first personally, since when I think of Summoner I always think of ‘Ifrit / Shiva / Ramuh’ as like the bread/butter of a Final Fantasy Summoner.

Egi glamours all I’d ask for is Moogle lol; it’d make more sense as a glamour for the fairy, but I’d take one for Summoner too. I mean, it does appear as a summon in various ff games, so it wouldn’t be too out there lol.

For the last part I kind of like Slipstream having a cast time. There’s already a scarce amount of actual casted spells for Summoner so I’d like to keep any we have lol. Plus, deciding whether to Swiftcast to put it under raid buffs or hard cast and keep Swiftcast for Ifrit phase is one of the only things Summoner has to really consider, and I feel like that’d be gone if Slipstream was an instant cast.

Originally Posted by Nizzi

Remove Physick and Resurrection from Summoner

This. Maybe SMN could have kept it with its old kit, but they should have been tossed with the rework. It's too strong now for how approachable it is to play at an effective level; it's making RDM and BLM be chosen shockingly less often as a result.

If it doesn't go away and the new DT caster also cannot rez, hoo boy.

Originally Posted by Connor

Would also like if Carbuncle contributed instead of sitting around waiting for you to use Radiant Aegis lol.

Carby has their world first clear of an Ultimate. They've done enough. Let them chill. :P

Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

If they really want casters to have a rez, they could try making it a role action with a long cooldown. This would make it less spammable on SMN/RDM, give THM/BLM more appeal, and help out in BLU parties since nobody ever equips Angel Whisper. Then Resurrection could be purely a SCH action.

Even if remains just to RDM and SMN, giving it a cooldown would be enough reason to not 'rez tax' them anymore, since it's not spammable.

As for SMN moving on I'd want:

- Physick scaling with INT. Idk why some people are so adamant against a situational button that is actually useful in solo content, especially deep dungeons. There's a reason why RDM is a good job in PotD runs.

- Everlasting Flight Ready: After you summon Phoenix, Physick turns into EF ogcd for 40s. There, now you can actually make the best of an often wasted aoe regen.

- Since they only attack once and leave, Gemstone Summons are no longer an 'entity' and are just animations now not replacing the Carbuncle anymore.

- Carbuncle auto-attacks again, from range.

- New egi glamours: moogle and poroggos.

- Last but not least:



Those gemstones are more cast-time focused than the previous ones.

Optional:a level 100 trait that rearranges the 6 gemstones according to their polarity. Now Bahamut activates the umbral elements Water, Earth, and Ice and Phoenix activates the astral elements Fire, Wind and Lightning. There's also a bonus action that cycles your demi phase outside of combat, so now it's possible to decide if you want to start a fight with Bahamut or Phoenix.

What would adding 3 new Legos to SMN actually achieve though

Right now the only thing that separates the 3 current legos is capacity for movement (and this is really only in the post Phoenix phase because if you are optimising for damage during the Bahamut window you always should be going titan->Garuda->ifrit

If the new primals are more mobile then the current ones you end up with the post Bahamut phase being restrictive on movement, if they are less mobile then the post Phoenix phase is immobile, since you can’t swap around when you summon Bahamut vs Phoenix there is still no choice, you just get 3 new shades of ruin 3