I'm One Of The Filthiests Of Casuals And Even I Can See How Dumbdown FF14 Has Become!

[Post]

I think it's great that game have en easy job like SMN now..
Because it means that players who are new and not good at mmos
get to experience this game too.

Players that are new and not good at MMOs have so many tools provided to them from the first second of the game to succeed and get better.

Even things that aren't explicitly explained like DoTs ticcing every 3 seconds globally are very easy to figure out if a player simply tries them and sees, or is even afflicted by the many, many DoTs enemies can helpfully provide between level 1 and 90. Failing that, players can use the in game chat box to ask one of the many players, or in game novice network if they're struggling to find anyone in the game to ask.

They could also play a tank or healer instead of a DPS if not being perfect at your rotation is really a thing that prevents people from experiencing this game (it's not).

[Zeastria]

Players that are new and not good at MMOs have so many tools provided to them from the first second of the game to succeed and get better.

Even things that aren't explicitly explained like DoTs ticcing every 3 seconds globally are very easy to figure out if a player simply tries them and sees, or is even afflicted by the many, many DoTs enemies can helpfully provide between level 1 and 90. Failing that, players can use the in game chat box to ask one of the many players, or in game novice network if they're struggling to find anyone in the game to ask.

They could also play a tank or healer instead of a DPS if not being perfect at your rotation is really a thing that prevents people from experiencing this game (it's not).

lol, You have no idea how bad some player can be in mmo...

[Post]

People are bad at everything in life. Doesn't stop them from doing things if they enjoy it.

[Ivtrix]

lol, You have no idea how bad some player can be in mmo...

Why do we continually infantilize the average player in this game?

Some of y’all act like playing the jobs in this game is as difficult as playing against a chess grandmaster..?????

[ZiraZ]

I think it's great that game have en easy job like SMN now..
Because it means that players who are new and not good at mmos
get to experience this game too.

No that's what leveling is for, current SMN should not exist period.

[Zeastria]

No that's what leveling is for, current SMN should not exist period.

Choices matters and having different difficulty among the jobs is good for the game..
If people want easier job let them have that ..Why hate on players who want easier choice?
There is plenty of "harder" dps jobs to play..

[VentVanitas]

Choices matters and having different difficulty among the jobs is good for the game..
If people want easier job let them have that ..Why hate on players who want easier choice?
There is plenty of "harder" dps jobs to play..

sure, but EW SMN came at the cost of what was generally perceived to be a difficult job with no similar alternative for what it offered. the alienation is inexcusable.

[Denji]

i think the job itself (smn) is very poorly designed but i don't think the game itself has been dumbed down.

i've been playing for a while and i remember when things were pretty damn tough back in ARR/HW. i think overall most of the gameplay changes have been for the best and that people who complain that things are "way too easy" are actually failing to realize that they've just gotten better as a player.

if you play a game like an MMO daily then it makes sense that after a couple months/years that things will start "clicking". stuff that was difficult is no longer as difficult. with aoe markers and mechanics having more consistent warnings/icons it means that players who have been around for a while can figure out how to resolve said mechanics at a glance which can give an artificial sense of the game dumbing things down.

you - as someone who has played for more than a few months - are biased. you have skill and experience and you're allowing that to warp your perception of how things actually are.

that said, summoner sucks right now. no idea why it's the way it is and i have zero idea how it even got greenlit but considering how long monk and mch have/used to suck i'm not really surprised. also ast needs help, too. like i'm glad they nerfed it a bit but there's a lot of aspects of it where you're just like... why does this exist.

[Ivtrix]

Choices matters and having different difficulty among the jobs is good for the game..
If people want easier job let them have that ..Why hate on players who want easier choice?
There is plenty of "harder" dps jobs to play..

There are no hard jobs in this game…

Only hard jobs to optimize.

[Zeastria]

There are no hard jobs in this game…

Only hard jobs to optimize.

The jobs in ffxiv are designed with different complexity and difficulty build in them.
I guess you could play all jobs at very basic level..
The issue is you would do terrible low dmg..because those jobs do very low dmg if not played correct..
Anyway your average player wouldn't know if he/she playing the job wrong in the first place.