LuckyBancho data shows that FF14 is in decline

[Supersnow845]

Yes, you are making up numbers.

From the FY2024/3 Q1 briefing, Q and A with the CEO:

Q: Initial sales of “FINAL FANTASY XVI” were three million units. How did that compare to your expectations, and how do you plan to expand sales going forward?

A: This achievement was in line with our expectations. To expand sales, we have planned a variety of PR activities and other initiatives to encourage more of the growing PlayStation5 installed base to play the title.

Yes and that’s why I said I’m making up numbers here; I used it to illustrate a point

Square has always had whack sales expectations, a ceo video like that isn’t going to come right out and say “our game underperformed” but you can damn well bet it underperformed their stupidly high expectations for it

This is your interpretation of the corporate culture at Square Enix. Not exactly sure what you base your conjecture on other than wishful thinking. Who, exactly, have you been consulting about those "whack sales expectations" at SE? (Other than your own imagination of how it must be?)

I’m out of daily posts btw

https://www.reddit.com/r/truegaming/..._expectations/
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...witch/79912511
https://www.resetera.com/threads/doe...-games.519168/

You can look inside the forums for links to specific articles for specific games but this includes games going all the way back to at least the 6th generation

This is a well known phenomenon

[DPZ2]

Yes and that’s why I said I’m making up numbers here; I used it to illustrate a point

Square has always had whack sales expectations, a ceo video like that isn’t going to come right out and say “our game underperformed” but you can damn well bet it underperformed their stupidly high expectations for it

This is your interpretation of the corporate culture at Square Enix. Not exactly sure what you base your conjecture on other than wishful thinking. Who, exactly, have you been consulting about those "whack sales expectations" at SE? (Other than your own imagination of how it must be?)

[Ivtrix]

Yes, you are making up numbers.

From the FY2024/3 Q1 briefing, Q and A with the CEO:

Q: Initial sales of “FINAL FANTASY XVI” were three million units. How did that compare to your expectations, and how do you plan to expand sales going forward?

A: This achievement was in line with our expectations. To expand sales, we have planned a variety of PR activities and other initiatives to encourage more of the growing PlayStation5 installed base to play the title.

The answer given sounds like a very pr way of saying “please buy the 500$ console of one of our partners to play our game. Please. Pleaseeeeeeee”

[Swordsman]

Yes and that’s why I said I’m making up numbers here; I used it to illustrate a point

Square has always had whack sales expectations, a ceo video like that isn’t going to come right out and say “our game underperformed” but you can damn well bet it underperformed their stupidly high expectations for it



I’m out of daily posts btw

https://www.reddit.com/r/truegaming/..._expectations/
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...witch/79912511
https://www.resetera.com/threads/doe...-games.519168/

You can look inside the forums for links to specific articles for specific games but this includes games going all the way back to at least the 6th generation

This is a well known phenomenon

Bro, he's purposely being obtuse to give you a hard time. Even if you show him a source he'll either ignore or misinterpret it. Don't take the bait, lol.

[DPZ2]

Bro, he's purposely being obtuse to give you a hard time. Even if you show him a source he'll either ignore or misinterpret it. Don't take the bait, lol.

Yeah. It's not fun reading articles upon which reddit statements are loosely based. The article referenced by the reddit post (a Wikipedia article) leads to the initial article that does not mention the word "failure" for example. The game's Tomb Raider (in 2013) sales target was 14.9 million. At the time of the article it was 3.4 million. Total sales ended up being 14.5 million.

The second article apparently sourced the same article about the 2013 Tomb Raider release. And also contained a large amount of speculation based on zero numbers other than 3.5 million players of Outriders and the developer (not SE) complaining about royalties.

The third article was interesting, but only because there was little mention of "stupidly high expectations". The mention of Avengers - a game which, given the MCU's popularity, should have been a slam dunk - is a dead giveaway.

So, no real data for"whacked expectations" in the articles mentioned. A lot of forum posts, covering the feelings of the readers and writers, though. None of whom work for Square Enix.

[DPZ2]

The answer given sounds like a very pr way of saying “please buy the 500$ console of one of our partners to play our game. Please. Pleaseeeeeeee”

Nah. It's a very polite way for a CEO to tell investors "we hit our [self-imposed] mark and will continue PR activities to encourage new Playstation 5 purchasers to buy the game."

The Q&A wasn't aimed at consumers.

[seolhyun]

we are back to the lowest point of ShB numbers. not a good sign when we still have 9-10 months of no new raid tier, no relic grind, no exploration zone, etc.

[Tahbitha]

If the FF XIV player population is in decline... why have I experienced a login queue, of consistent length, every single time I've logged into the game in the past 18 months?

[Theodric]

If the FF XIV player population is in decline... why have I experienced a login queue, of consistent length, every single time I've logged into the game in the past 18 months?

The game cannot handle too many people logging in at the same time so it filters them with a queue no matter the time of day or night.

[Ivtrix]

If the FF XIV player population is in decline... why have I experienced a login queue, of consistent length, every single time I've logged into the game in the past 18 months?

It was a stopgap made to alleviate some issues with login during EW release. They havnt removed it