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  1. #91
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    I mean I only have to stand outside my FC's house (Or wander around the housing districts) to realise this.

    If Dawntrail is indeed patch 5.12 then Yoshida is piloting this game to it's grave.
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    Suddenly LuckyBancho is a good source of metric.

    Months ago when debating about the popularity of FFXIV, LuckyBancho was regarded as invalid source.

    How the narrative shifted.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    Also, this is yet another piece of data that showed that the massive influx at the end of Shadowbringers was a fluke. The number of new players dropped sharply again in Endwalker.

    We're now facing a massive decline in this game. We need CBU3 to shape up.
    This happens when the "play other games"-wish becomes true.



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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Suddenly LuckyBancho is a good source of metric.

    Months ago when debating about the popularity of FFXIV, LuckyBancho was regarded as invalid source.

    How the narrative shifted.
    The narrative hasnt shifted at all. In the threads about concurrent players LB was designated a poor metric by the complainers because it counts someone who plays every day for 5 hours and someone who plays only once a month for 1 hour as the same amount. This thread isnt about concurrent player numbers, it's about how many people have done anything (that gives even just a single achievement) in a quarter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    It was probably expected numbers for an unprecedented content lull. The core formula has remained the same while the patches have pushed further apart.

    Consider that Comedy tomes and current raid gear was released in May 2023, and there won't be any new upgrades for raiders until some time in Summer 2024.

    This gear system only seems worse the further it is stretched. It's gonna be a year of nothing but catch-up and cosmetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    The narrative hasnt shifted at all. In the threads about concurrent players LB was designated a poor metric by the complainers because it counts someone who plays every day for 5 hours and someone who plays only once a month for 1 hour as the same amount. This thread isnt about concurrent player numbers, it's about how many people have done anything (that gives even just a single achievement) in a quarter.
    I would add that even the OP even temperate that in the first post. Also, while why the validity of the the specifics can be discussed, the methodology not having changed for a long time, it's good enough to see a general tendancy. It seems a far better metric than the steam stats (because most player don't play on steam, at least this one is the same for steam, not steam and ps5).

    I'm not too surprised to see the big fall came with 6.3 and 6.4. that's when the people began to complain. Relics came with 6.2, and were a big disappointment for a lot of players. It's also when people began to complain about the msq. 6.2 did pretty well with it, but 6.3 failed to offer proper building to the 2 generals you fought. I think what we see here is what has become the main subject of discussion, the lack of proper long running content that incentives the players to actully play the game on the long term. I would add that's probably we saw a lot of people coming from wow leaving lately. XIV don't have the problem as wow, but it does have some.

    Yet, this can still easily be reversed. More than ever, I think Dawntrail will be the things that will determine how the game future. Either they take the good lessons from EW, and achieve the game can continue to live, either we get another EW like patch cycle, and I'm not sure the game will survive it (more in term of being something inversted into. It will survive anyway, FFXI is still there. If Dawntrail continue this path, I can see the game get a 8.0, but I would not bet on a 9.0)

    Once again, SE showed its over the top ability to miserably fail and shoot themselves in the foot when they have every card to be successful. It continues to amaze me. Their game was at his highest ever, and they ended doing the bare minimum. Great strategy once again.
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    Last edited by CNitsah; 09-20-2023 at 08:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    This happens when the "play other games"-wish becomes true.



    Cheers
    These people really love paying 15$ to go play other games they spent money on

    It’s so absurd to think about with how regularly defended the opinion is here.
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  8. #98
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    ITT: MMOs lose a portion of players in between updates.

    Also, the sky is blue, grass is green and we're seconds away from someone else posting another person's opinion as their own while making a thread about it.
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  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
    ITT: MMOs lose a portion of players in between updates.

    Also, the sky is blue, grass is green and we're seconds away from someone else posting another person's opinion as their own while making a thread about it.
    Funny how the same thing happened in the other expansions yet the game still continued to grow
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
    ITT: MMOs lose a portion of players in between updates.

    Also, the sky is blue, grass is green and we're seconds away from someone else posting another person's opinion as their own while making a thread about it.
    True. But such a decline like in EW was never observed.


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