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    Thanks for TEDing to my come talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post


    Thanks for TEDing to my come talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post


    Thanks for TEDing to my come talk.
    So you don’t see it as a negative that 14 has completely failed to hold any of the WOW refugees
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    So you don’t see it as a negative that 14 has completely failed to hold any of the WOW refugees
    Also in saying that all of ShBs growth was due to the wow exodus when that was only, like, the last patch or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    So you don’t see it as a negative that 14 has completely failed to hold any of the WOW refugees
    One could also look at that data and think that ShB/EW design was what attracted them into staying if they did. I actually prefer it this way cause had the players stayed, then SE would think this is the way the game needs to be and that nothing would need to be changed. Aka: Necessary evil.
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    Last edited by Bonoki; 09-20-2023 at 10:41 AM.
    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    One could also look at that data and think that ShB/EW design was what attracted them into staying if they did. I actually prefer it this way cause had the players stayed, then SE would think this is the way the game needs to be.
    But the way you presented your interpretation of the data specifically shows they didn’t stay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    But the way you presented your interpretation of the data specifically shows they didn’t stay
    I think you just restated the point I was making. Had they stayed then the devs would see no reason to fix the game thinking it works.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    I think you just restated the point I was making. Had they stayed then the devs would see no reason to fix the game thinking it works.
    Ah yep I see what you mean now, sorry that was my mistake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    So you don’t see it as a negative that 14 has completely failed to hold any of the WOW refugees
    Their graph is complete nonsense. The stable growth trendline is below the 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0 census. They were drawing a line from 2.0 to 6.45 when you should be drawing through 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0 (or 2.3, 3.3, 4.3, whatever you wish).



    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    How much of that churn is due to the WoW exodus that bloated the Endwalker numbers in the first place?
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    So you don’t see it as a negative that 14 has completely failed to hold any of the WOW refugees
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You've drawn attention to your desire to hide your reason. That's going to leave others with even more doubt that your intent was innocent.
    Innocence? Please do enlighten us what my intent is. Meanwhile, your intent could not be any clearer with your previous signature.
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    Last edited by Noumenon; 09-20-2023 at 10:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    Innocence? Please do enlighten us what my intent is. Meanwhile, your intent could not be any clearer with your previous signature.
    I should hope my intent is clear. I've never made any attempts to hide my intent. I've discussed it many times here.

    Do what is in your personal best interest - play the games you enjoy. Learn to be a smart consumer and stop wasting your money on what you don't like so game studios and publishers will work to make the games that players actually want.

    When you give your money to a company that isn't delivering a product you enjoy, you're sending the wrong message.
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