Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
So you picked the least consequential part of OP and laser focused on it and ignored the rest of the discussion? Which is clear because I've already remarked on how LuckyBancho's numbers represents a summary statistic that does not capture huge swathes of the activity distribution.

Actually yes, a comparison can be made between WoW and FF14, because there were other similar trends in WoW that now exist in FF14, like longer patch cycles, more bugs, etc.

And a comparison does not mean that the two trends are identical. It simply means that there is cause for concern. Hence "eerie".

We're not doing any rigorous statistical analysis here. There is not any regression or model or tree or whatever in this entire thread.
No, you don’t even understand what I’m getting at. You definitely don’t know anything about data science

The time periods not being equivalent matters because even if the length of time is the same, the difference in actual time periods when the data was collected matters. 2013-2023 and 2004-2018 aren’t comparable, the industry has seen massive changes in game design, player expectations, quality, etc…. This isn’t even taking into account that the portions of the graphs that are similar have an even larger discrepancy

Sub counts and achievements are also not the same dataset, and you have absolutely no rationale for why we should consider one representative of the other - especially since achievement attainment tends to vary massively with how long the player has been playing and whether they’re doing new content they don’t usually partake in or are doing the same old usual

FF and WoW having similarities in other unrelated areas is not a good reason to believe the above two issues don’t apply in THIS comparison

“Eerie” doesn’t mean anything. It’s pseudoscience. Weak or strong correlation. Causation. Justify it.

Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
We're merely discussing the data. And figuring out the context. Something that is currently done in the thread. If this process is unfamiliar to you I don't think you have produced any quality data scientific work in your past.
My first reply in this thread was that your post didn’t mean anything because you provided no specifics for any context, and your conclusions had no real substance for rationale. After which I actually brought up examples myself, that you proceeded to ignore, in favor of preaching some general nonsense about analyzing data “alone”.

You can’t gaslight like that when there’s a written record of the conversation we’ve been having, my guy