I'm One Of The Filthiests Of Casuals And Even I Can See How Dumbdown FF14 Has Become!

[ZephyrMenodora]

The problem isn't really that the job is simple, it's that they took a job that was relatively complex and turned it into the simplest job in the game. So naturally people who enjoyed the previous complexity are going to be upset about the sudden change.

Sure, but I'm wagering MORE people are playing SMN now than before, making it a net gain for the class. SMN has been a problematic class and heavily criticized through all it's iterations. Usually only after it's changed do those fans come out to talk about how much they liked it.

I've played SMN since ARR and I think a lot of it's prior iterations were messy and incongruent.

[Rolder50]

Sure, but I'm wagering MORE people are playing SMN now than before, making it a net gain for the class. SMN has been a problematic class and heavily criticized through all it's iterations. Usually only after it's changed do those fans come out to talk about how much they liked it.

I've played SMN since ARR and I think a lot of it's prior iterations were messy and incongruent.

Using raw player counts in this instance is pretty silly. It's the simplest job in the game even including tanks and healers. Obviously the lowest common denominator job will have the most people. Not to mention you get it for free with Scholar.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Using raw player counts in this instance is pretty silly. It's the simplest job in the game even including tanks and healers. Obviously the lowest common denominator job will have the most people. Not to mention you get it for free with Scholar.

And the "lowest common denominator job" will always have to be something. In this case it's Summoner.

I'm not understanding the real point here. If SE has a class that is so accessible it increases engagement with the game, then it's a win for them. If all classes were challenging to engage with, they'd probably lose some players.

Even higher level PVP games have the braindead champs that a novice can pick up as they play the game a few times a year. LOL has Sona for example, where you just press buttons and barely have to aim or worry about anything other than positioning.