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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Just from a quick scan of Crystal worlds, I’m seeing maybe 1 personal with no bids per residential area at most. The rest of the 0 bids showing on that one website are unavailable because they opened up after this round’s bidding had already started.
    Two servers on Crystal, Diabolos (The Goblet, Ward 17, Plot 32) and Malboro (The Goblet, Ward 17, Plot 37), had 0-bid plots that were available to be bid on but no one wanted them. The other 6 servers I'm not sure about. I excluded unavailable plots in my count. Players on Diabolos and Malboro who wanted a house could have bought one, and as such they no longer lack access to personal housing.

    Out of all NA servers Crystal is the data center with the worst housing situation at the moment. Aether had enough plots for everyone on 6 out of 8 servers, and on Primal it was 7 out 8 servers. Dynamis is still obviously 4 out of 4. In total NA has 19 different servers out of 28 where any player could have bought housing last cycle, if they wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    More than half of the older NA worlds now have housing for everyone who wants it.
    How many of those are plots that became available after the bidding started? I already have a small, been trying to get a medium for months. A large is out of the question because they always have at least 100 bidders.

    Although another trend I am seeing that’s probably frustrating to bidders lately, is one or two properties each round, usually with about 5-10 bidders or more, where the winner doesn’t bother claiming them and they get pushed to the next round. After spending 9 months to get a small, I doubt it’s one person winning every time and not claiming, because who could be lucky enough to win that often in a row?! lol But who the heck is bidding and then not claiming? Just wasting everyone else’s time.
    That is very likely FC's having members bid on multiple plots. If they happen to win more than one they claim their favorite and accept the loss of gil for the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Two servers on Crystal, Diabolos (The Goblet, Ward 17, Plot 32) and Malboro (The Goblet, Ward 17, Plot 37), had 0-bid plots that were available to be bid on but no one wanted them. The other 6 servers I'm not sure about. I excluded unavailable plots in my count.

    In total NA has 19 different servers out of 28 where any player could have bought housing last cycle, if they wanted to.
    Just from your example though… on Diablos, that’s one plot. Marlboro, one plot. Which was kind of my point. Any one player could have bid on either of those single plots. But there were more people bidding in that round than just one person.

    We can speculate as to why that plot got passed up, and come up with lots of different reasons. Maybe they could only get on to bid a certain day and the plot they bid on had no other bids at the time and more jumped on later, maybe they just didn’t want Goblet, maybe there was a plot they liked better open for bidding, etc. But there’s still more active bidders than plots available.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acesfool
    That is very likely FC's having members bid on multiple plots. If they happen to win more than one they claim their favorite and accept the loss of gil for the others.
    Ah that completely slipped my mind! I’ll have to pay attention to whether it’s a mixed or personal ward next time. I don’t bother looking at the FC only wards anymore, so I forget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acesfool View Post
    How many of those are plots that became available after the bidding started?
    I already excluded those. 19 NA worlds had at least one house that was available for bidding from the start but nobody needed it as a personal house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Just from your example though… on Diablos, that’s one plot. Marlboro, one plot. Which was kind of my point. Any one player could have bid on either of those single plots. But there were more people bidding in that round than just one person.
    Could have but didn't. There are now more houses than the number of players wanting their first house on those servers. I didn't bother to check any more plots because there is already one extra. Bids stacked on other plots are pickiness and relocation interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Could have but didn't. There are now more houses than the number of players wanting their first house on those servers. I didn't bother to check any more plots because there is already one extra. Bids stacked on other plots are pickiness and relocation interest.
    That's a pretty dismissive way of deciding there's enough housing for all. What if some players had bid early on a random plot because they wouldn't be online the last day of the entry period to bid and others who were engaging in pickiness then choose the same plots?

    Those worlds could easily go back to having multiple bids on every available plot in the next dozen lotteries. One plot with no entries in a single lottery period really is not an indication of enough for all who want one.

    If a world has multiple zero-entry houses for multiple consecutive lotteries, then it would stand to reason that that world has enough for all who are interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What if some players had bid early on a random plot because they wouldn't be online the last day of the entry period to bid and others who were engaging in pickiness then choose the same plots?
    According to you multiple players wanted a house but just couldn't find the one with zero bids. Right. Sounds like you want to hold on to the idea that there is a housing crisis even when facts demonstrate the opposite: houses not being competed for and claimed on 19 different servers.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 09-14-2023 at 04:00 PM.

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    It's not over, when populations start to pick back up again we're going to have a bunch of players dumped on the servers and this conversation all over again.
    Hopefully their "fix" this time isn't to add a new dead DC, and then immediately screw over everyone who moved there by adding wards to every other world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    It's not over, when populations start to pick back up again we're going to have a bunch of players dumped on the servers and this conversation all over again.
    Hopefully their "fix" this time isn't to add a new dead DC, and then immediately screw over everyone who moved there by adding wards to every other world.
    I am hoping with the xbox players that SE kind of encourages them to create characters on the new DCs to grow population and mitigate some of those future problems. That being said, I imagine with DT next year we will once again run into a massive supply crisis as everyone comes back and new players try it out unless SE adds another new housing area and more wards since they are opposed to a permanent fix to the supply issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    For now, yes.

    It will be interesting to see what the situation is like when Dawntrail launches between returning players and the new Xbox players.
    To be fair the new Xbox players should not be effecting early Dawntrail bidding as they would not be up to snuff.

    Perhaps there should be a bidding restriction timer on boosted characters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    It's not over, when populations start to pick back up again we're going to have a bunch of players dumped on the servers and this conversation all over again.
    Hopefully their "fix" this time isn't to add a new dead DC, and then immediately screw over everyone who moved there by adding wards to every other world.
    Thats actually a easier fix...

    Simply make your world/DC nothing more then your home address. Allow you to wander to say Maduin and bid there if you wish.

    Right now the imbalance is constant due to things like DC travel where its killing the PF on some DC's; while in other cases you have active players wanting to be able to do business in active servers (like retainer bells and such) so they go where people are...no one wants to pioneer Dynamis it seems. Places like Balmung however are a housing bloodbath.
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