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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Two servers on Crystal, Diabolos (The Goblet, Ward 17, Plot 32) and Malboro (The Goblet, Ward 17, Plot 37), had 0-bid plots that were available to be bid on but no one wanted them. The other 6 servers I'm not sure about. I excluded unavailable plots in my count.

    In total NA has 19 different servers out of 28 where any player could have bought housing last cycle, if they wanted to.
    Just from your example though… on Diablos, that’s one plot. Marlboro, one plot. Which was kind of my point. Any one player could have bid on either of those single plots. But there were more people bidding in that round than just one person.

    We can speculate as to why that plot got passed up, and come up with lots of different reasons. Maybe they could only get on to bid a certain day and the plot they bid on had no other bids at the time and more jumped on later, maybe they just didn’t want Goblet, maybe there was a plot they liked better open for bidding, etc. But there’s still more active bidders than plots available.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acesfool
    That is very likely FC's having members bid on multiple plots. If they happen to win more than one they claim their favorite and accept the loss of gil for the others.
    Ah that completely slipped my mind! I’ll have to pay attention to whether it’s a mixed or personal ward next time. I don’t bother looking at the FC only wards anymore, so I forget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acesfool View Post
    How many of those are plots that became available after the bidding started?
    I already excluded those. 19 NA worlds had at least one house that was available for bidding from the start but nobody needed it as a personal house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Just from your example though… on Diablos, that’s one plot. Marlboro, one plot. Which was kind of my point. Any one player could have bid on either of those single plots. But there were more people bidding in that round than just one person.
    Could have but didn't. There are now more houses than the number of players wanting their first house on those servers. I didn't bother to check any more plots because there is already one extra. Bids stacked on other plots are pickiness and relocation interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Could have but didn't. There are now more houses than the number of players wanting their first house on those servers. I didn't bother to check any more plots because there is already one extra. Bids stacked on other plots are pickiness and relocation interest.
    That's a pretty dismissive way of deciding there's enough housing for all. What if some players had bid early on a random plot because they wouldn't be online the last day of the entry period to bid and others who were engaging in pickiness then choose the same plots?

    Those worlds could easily go back to having multiple bids on every available plot in the next dozen lotteries. One plot with no entries in a single lottery period really is not an indication of enough for all who want one.

    If a world has multiple zero-entry houses for multiple consecutive lotteries, then it would stand to reason that that world has enough for all who are interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What if some players had bid early on a random plot because they wouldn't be online the last day of the entry period to bid and others who were engaging in pickiness then choose the same plots?
    According to you multiple players wanted a house but just couldn't find the one with zero bids. Right. Sounds like you want to hold on to the idea that there is a housing crisis even when facts demonstrate the opposite: houses not being competed for and claimed on 19 different servers.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 09-14-2023 at 04:00 PM.