Yup, Another Thread: I Hate Addons and SE Needs To Ban Players Who Use Them!

[TheRealMadruck]

So it was either the robot on wobbly stilts, the pillar with wings, or the poo titan... which are all extremely predictable...

It's not a matter of people pretending tools don't exist. It's that we can see this story of yours is a complete fabrication.

Or...here is just a thought...you are dishonestly claiming that all mechanics from the first 3 bosses are fully predicatable because you yourself maybe uses addons and you get upset when legit players speak out against cheaters. Most players will know you are lying just by reading how certain aoes from those fights ARE RANDOM and no way "extremely predictable" for someone to move 5+ seconds before the visual and audio prompts are either seen or heard to move to a specific location from the aoe. But hey...who knows right?!?!
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Copied_Factory
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...pets%27_Bunker
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...igm%27s_Breach

Between the first boss of the three nier raids I can’t think of a single cryptic mechanic

The closest I can think of to a cryptic mechanic in the first boss of an alliance raid would either be the proximity AOE’s on void blizzard 4 encouraging you to run far away from the icicles when they form the safe zone on dun scaith boss 1 or mustadio making it not 100% clear if you should face the hole or the rest towards him

Here is a list of the raids:
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Copied_Factory
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...pets%27_Bunker
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...igm%27s_Breach

Feel free to read and watch videos about the mechanics. Then please explain how someone can move 5+ seconds before the visual/audio prompts are even known for a player to be able to move to a safe location ahead of time from the random aoes that these bosses have.
Also, please feel free to watch this video showing how these illegal addons do exactly how I claim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFSD...channel=TaruTV

[Supersnow845]

Or...here is just a thought...you are dishonestly claiming that all mechanics from the first 3 bosses are fully predicatable because you yourself maybe uses addons and you get upset when legit players speak out against cheaters. Most players will know you are lying just by reading how certain aoes from those fights ARE RANDOM to and no way "extremely predictable" for someone to move 5+ seconds before the visual and audio prompts are either seen or heard. But hey...who knows?!?!
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Copied_Factory
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...pets%27_Bunker
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...igm%27s_Breach

And maybe its because you hate that a person like myself who doesn't cheat and more than likely you do gets


Here is a list of the raids:
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Copied_Factory
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...pets%27_Bunker
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...igm%27s_Breach

Feel free to read and watch videos about the mechanics. Then please explain how someone can move 5+ seconds before the visual/audio prompts are even known for a player to be able to move to a safe location ahead of time from the random aoes that these bosses have.
Also, please feel free to watch this video showing how these illegal addons do exactly how I claim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFSD...channel=TaruTV

WHAT. MECHANIC. ARE. YOU. REFERRING. TO.

Because I can tell you what it’s tell is if you stop dodging the question

[Renalt]

WHAT. MECHANIC. ARE. YOU. REFERRING. TO.

Because I can tell you what it’s tell is if you stop dodging the question

They won't answer because then people can disprove it without a shadow of a doubt.

Not saying mods that tell you what you need to do don't exist...but we are saying THIS instance did not happen.

[TheRealMadruck]

WHAT. MECHANIC. ARE. YOU. REFERRING. TO.

Because I can tell you what it’s tell is if you stop dodging the question

Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time away from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!

They won't answer because then people can disprove it without a shadow of a doubt.

Not saying mods that tell you what you need to do don't exist...but we are saying THIS instance did not happen.

Remind me...what were you saying again?

Addendum

When energy assault is about to occur the boss will turn in a specific direction regardless of where the tank is standing (a common tell a mechanic is about to happen) then he will contract and start spitting out the AOE’s, you generally have about 3 seconds to resolve it before you get hit and they specifically don’t do much damage so you can afford to get clipped by 1 or 2 trying to get out of them

It’s a rather short tell but the idea is there is no reason to be far away from that boss except in the rotating satellite phase so if you stay close to him it’s easy to dodge the mechanic

I literally saw the cheater move away from the player who was going to be targeted 5+ seconds before the boss even changed the direction he was facing to the opposite side! Mostly every other player in the raid did not move for the aoe until they saw the direction change of the boss like everyone else. Yet you want to still claim that this was done without addons? Yea right...

I get so freaking tired of others making excuses for those who cheat!(Because more than likely they are a cheater themself!)

Well there you go. Supersnow finally got a mechanic name and told ya what you need to do. Like 99.9 percent of these are scripted dances...you learn the steps and you become so good people start to assume you are cheating.

WRONG! He explained nothing on how another player can move 5+ seconds from the targeted player to the opposite side while most of the other players in raid only moved once the boss moved the direction it faced for the aoe!
Keep making excuses for cheaters...I find it very sus why you do!

[Supersnow845]

Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time way from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!

When energy assault is about to occur the boss will turn in a specific direction regardless of where the tank is standing (a common tell a mechanic is about to happen) then he will contract and start spitting out the AOE’s, you generally have about 3 seconds to resolve it before you get hit and they specifically don’t do much damage so you can afford to get clipped by 1 or 2 trying to get out of them

It’s a rather short tell but the idea is there is no reason to be far away from that boss except in the rotating satellite phase so if you stay close to him it’s easy to dodge the mechanic

[ChrysOCE]

When energy assault is about to occur the boss will turn in a specific direction regardless of where the tank is standing (a common tell a mechanic is about to happen) then he will contract and start spitting out the AOE’s, you generally have about 3 seconds to resolve it before you get hit and they specifically don’t do much damage so you can afford to get clipped by 1 or 2 trying to get out of them

It’s a rather short tell but the idea is there is no reason to be far away from that boss except in the rotating satellite phase so if you stay close to him it’s easy to dodge the mechanic

It also has a cast bar.....

[Renalt]

Remind me...what were you saying again?

Well there you go. Supersnow finally got a mechanic name and told ya what you need to do. Like 99.9 percent of these are scripted dances...you learn the steps and you become so good people start to assume you are cheating.

[Supersnow845]

Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time away from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!



Remind me...what were you saying again?

Addendum



I literally saw the cheater move away from the player who was going to be targeted 5+ seconds before the boss even changed the direction he was facing to the opposite side! Mostly every other player in the raid did not move for the aoe until they saw the direction change of the boss like everyone else. Yet you want to still claim that this was done without addons? Yea right...

I get so freaking tired of others making excuses for those who cheat!(Because more than likely they are a cheater themself!)



WRONG! He explained nothing on how another player can move 5+ seconds from the targeted player to the opposite side while most of the other players in raid only moved once the boss moved the direction it faced for the aoe!
Keep making excuses for cheaters...I find it very sus why you do!

Or Or Or Or and hear me out here, that person knew that mechanic was next (because it comes out at the same time every time) and went “hey if I’m away from the party there is less chance it’ll target me and so less chance I have to move

You know the same way a smart person resolves any mechanic targeted on a single person

[TaleraRistain]

Or Or Or Or and hear me out here, that person knew that mechanic was next (because it comes out at the same time every time) and went “hey if I’m away from the party there is less chance it’ll target me and so less chance I have to move

You know the same way a smart person resolves any mechanic targeted on a single person

OP also said it was another tank and I'm definitely not out in Narnia if I'm not the MT. Energy Assault is also pretty obvious even before the cast bar starts and all a tank has to do is slide a couple steps over if they aren't out in Narnia.

Not that there aren't the things described by the OP. Just doesn't sound like this instance was necessarily an example of it.

[pyxls]

Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time away from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!

Guess personally knowing when the cone may come and not be in the player dogpile which is more likely to be targeted is mod/add-on cheating.

Oh dear.