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  1. #1281
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    If/When he leaves for good, I think people will quickly start to wish for the good ol' days.
    Lol they've been doing that since Heavensward
    But you know, I still wonder what would FFXIV be like without YoshiP. Im kind of convinced anybody else that would replace him would just make the Monetization of the game worse then people think it is now.
    And quite frankly, the games monetization is Kittens compared to other games.
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  2. #1282
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    At that point I don't get why folks put the brunt of the blame on Yoshi P instead of SE itself. I'm a firm believer that guy wants the game to be the best it can but he doesn't get the funding needed to do this.
    I also think this is why it seems he comes out as lying when he says they can't do something but then a year or so later it gets done. Could be possible at that time they didn't have the money/resources to. It's all murky really.
    It's made known by now that I'm heavily critical toward this expansion, but I still genuinely believe Yoship wants the best for this game.

    The man doesn't even want to be on the board of directors, he wants to make great games that people will enjoy for years to come. He has to split his focus on too much. At the end of the day, this game might be milked by SE, and it does feel like not enough goes into the game at times, but it's SE that directly provides the funding brought by that profit.
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    Last edited by Zairava; 09-10-2023 at 03:38 AM. Reason: shortened first bit, unnecessary fluff.

  3. #1283
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    FFXIV's peak monthly active player counts are somewhere in the region of 20 million.
    No, that is the total amount of characters ever created. The majority of them either didn't continue playing the game, are bots, or level 1 alts that people didn't level, alts generally, or currently unsubscribed from the game.

    But that number is relevant, because even if SE causes 100,000 of their current subscribers to unsubscribe, another 100,000 of those inactive characters could suddenly return to the game for a month to "replace" them.

    The 20 million is a pool, and from it different people from this pool may be subscribed at any given month, aside from the people who just keep subscribed all year round like me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    It’s from Activeplayer.io (https://activeplayer.io/final-fantasy-xiv/)

    Both that and MMO-Populations have the daily population at ~1.3mil.
    MMO-Population was found to be bogus (they took the figure directly from the game's reddit follows which is not in any way a reflective statistic) and this caused it to say that games no longer running are still being played.

    I don't know what Activeplayer is but given the only statistics we really have to go on are lodestone sweeps (Lucky Bancho and ffxivcensus), Steam charts or Square Enix's quarterly reports, it's unlikely they are reliable either.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  4. #1284
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    MintnHoney's Avatar
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Quote Originally Posted by EZGIL View Post
    Damn, that's some fantastic luck. Even better that it happened in a fun game.
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  5. #1285
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    Last Starfighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    I think though we need to understand why a lot of people are happy that she's voicing these concerns. It is because these are genuinely held complaints they have which, through her reach, will hopefully now have a higher chance of making it through to the developers. It does not alter the fact that streamers face skewed incentives not to bite the hand that feeds them (although in her case maybe that influence has waned, certainly as a proportion of where her average viewership is originating) and that the nasty reactions from the community can act as a strong deterrent against it. This is allied to the fact that, for better or for worse, streamers have become a primary means of delivering feedback to the devs (which is less than ideal) and thus the frustration when those incentives get in the way of that. Those criticisms remain and are entirely valid. The response from many people is more along the lines of "finally, she's acknowledging these issues..." rather than a belief that she 100% must genuinely believe all this.
    Oh yeah, 100% agree with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    it's really not that material to people here whether she herself "truly" believes it or not so much that they want complaints they feel have validity to have a chance to get through to the devs and they believe this is in the game's best interests.
    Regardless, IMO I think she truly believes the things she's saying in her video. The idea that she's being disingenuous in her criticism of the game and she's only doing it for the views is a poor take. Anybody who believes that is purely coping at that point and is trying to dismiss her criticism as nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    She has a more established, long-standing audience with XIV but it's hardly what's drawing the most views on average to her videos...
    True, but you can definitely see that this video is drawing more views in a shorter period of time than many of her other videos. The videos only been out for a week and it's at 117k views and 3,032 comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EZGIL View Post
    Alright, I gotta say it - please don't take electronic devices anywhere near water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EZGIL View Post
    I was actually defending her for like idk how many pages, but I swear when I see stuff like this I have regrets
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    No, that is the total amount of characters ever created. The majority of them either didn't continue playing the game, are bots, or level 1 alts that people didn't level, alts generally, or currently unsubscribed from the game.
    Aye, the more I dig the more those figures I used look bad.

    SE announced a 27 million characters created milestone last year with estimates that it'll hit 30 mil at some point this year (Likely with some fanfare when it happens). There's no way 20 mil of those are actively subbing still IMO.

    Whoops!
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Aye, the more I dig the more those figures I used look bad.

    SE announced a 27 million characters created milestone last year with estimates that it'll hit 30 mil at some point this year (Likely with some fanfare when it happens). There's no way 20 mil of those are actively subbing still IMO.

    Whoops!
    Yep. They just use the accounts/characters created number for promotion purposes because bigger numbers tends to grab more attention. From a business standpoint, it makes perfect sense. It's just a little deceptive if you dig just below the surface.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    At that point I don't get why folks put the brunt of the blame on Yoshi P instead of SE itself. I'm a firm believer that guy wants the game to be the best it can but he doesn't get the funding needed to do this.
    I also think this is why it seems he comes out as lying when he says they can't do something but then a year or so later it gets done. Could be possible at that time they didn't have the money/resources to. It's all murky really.
    I think it's a bit of both. On one hand, Yoshi-P doesn't have unliateral control over finances and budget. On the other hand, there have been questionable decisions that are not related to budget, like dumbing down jobs and making content with no staying power.
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