Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Renathras]

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Short:

1) I liked your long post. There was something to actually talk about and it was about Zepla's points. I've said for dozens of pages I want to talk about the topic. Everyone else SAYS it, but spends their posts insulting and attacking me (and anyone who agrees). But when you actually post about it, the thing everyone's SAYING they want to talk about, which I actually DO want to talk about; yes, I'm going to respond to that and engage. Because I'm the person here who actually isn't lying about wanting to talk about Zepla's points. So yeah, please do that more.

2) Where did I insult you first? In this discussion, or is this a chicken/egg deal from somewhere else? That said, I didn't start the fire. And who am I gaslighting? Be very specific, because some people, SPECIFICALLY two, love to heckle me. Most others I'm far more measured with, and I even try with those two, but as you can see in literally every one of Alex/Storm's replies to me, she wants no part in actual discussion, no matter how hard I try.

3) Yeah, that is the discussion. I'm cool with it. I was just wanting to clarify you were disagreeing with her points.

4) If she originated the point, then you should disagree with her since that's the OP of this video. You did say at one point you disagree with her take. That's good. Remember: We're discussing HER POINTS, not my takes on her points. Feel free to offer rebuttals to things I say, but if you disagree with the base point itself, an "I disagree with Zepla on this" is probably the way to go, then say why.

5) Interesting. And fair. I think this is the distinction between "Sandbox" and "Themepark" MMOs, and FFXIV has long been much closer to the Themepark side of that balance.

6) I'll have to go through the whole post again, but I'm not sure I put an insult in it. The only thing I can think of is if you take "heckler brigade" as an insult as opposed to a statement. And one which one of the key members immediately justified by...doing exactly that. I do try to minimize insult, but I can try less. But you must understand - read all the replies here addressing me in negative terms and being far more insulting than that - how hard it is not to be at least a bit jaded in the face of the massive wall of it I'm getting each time I open a new page in this or any thread!

7) So the record's clear - I don't say you can't speak for others. I do say don't call your position a majority or an absolute majority (everyone). I'm pretty careful about this myself. I'll say things like "some people" instead of "most people/everyone" when I'm speaking to something others agree with but acknowledging that it isn't universal. I don't think there's a single position related to this game that IS absolutely universal. I do think there are some things close. Heck, even you recognize that's true of the 2 min meta and were just saying that to get a rise out of me instead of actually disagreeing with the point.

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One EDIT:

For the record, I'm not engaging in the convo because I'm at work and don't have the time to read and respond to a novel.

Is calling my posts "a novel" a complement?

I don't think it is, but maybe it is and I've been taking it wrong this whole time. When you say that, you're complementing me, not attacking me? I just want to make sure I'm clear on that... I just want to make sure that I understand correctly that calling someone's posts long is a COMPLEMENT and not an insult/attack. If I've been getting this wrong all this time, I do apologize. I didn't realize it was meant to be complementary.

In that case, thank you for the complements. Considering how often I get heckled and attacked over it, it's nice someone paying me a complement for once. Thank you.

EDIT2:

Here is something I slaved over all day on MS Paint to serve as a visual aid of some of your posts:



For me it's not a compliment or an insult or attack; just commentary. I think if you post a 7K character post with 22 arguments, most users on a gaming forum are going to skip it. It's too much to process and even think about responding to for most people. I think you'd do better to pick out the thinks you care most about commenting on, rather than absolutely everything.

You seem to put a lot of thought into your posts, so maybe its best to use a few key points at a time, and after people can digest them you can move on to other points.

I love it. Might have to save this.

As to the points:

People say they want to talk about the topic. I'm willing to engage with less if others are. So how about you present 2-3 of her points you think are worth discussing and we'll discuss them then move on to the next 2-3? I made a convenient list if you'd like to reference it...

And yeah, 20 post limit per day kind of limits discussion of that kind, but let's give it a shot.

Lol, okay, this one made me laugh. Definitely stealing that...

You get a like from me this day, Alexia.