What is the warrior job fantasy?

[VerdeLuck]

What would gear have to do with the physical/magic party mitigation split I mentioned? Did you miss when I mentioned that it would exclusively be party mit and not cooldowns like Vengeance?

It being a party mit doesn't change the situation. What happens when you find out you need more pysical mit from your tanks ?
you basically halt the prog of the group until the tank goes and farms up another weapon to play the other job.

This was something that happened in Abyssos when PLD and WAR were too weak to pass the DPS check on P8S, people had to leave prog and gear DRK/GNB to continue prog.
Just at a fundemental level these types of "incorrect comp checks" are something that the game and community doesn't work well with.

[Zairava]

It being a party mit doesn't change the situation. What happens when you find out you need more pysical mit from your tanks ?
you basically halt the prog of the group until the tank goes and farms up another weapon to play the other job.

This was something that happened in Abyssos when PLD and WAR were too weak to pass the DPS check on P8S, people had to leave prog and gear DRK/GNB to continue prog.
Just at a fundemental level these types of "incorrect comp checks" are something that the game and community doesn't work well with.

flat percentage mitigation has nothing to do with your weapon, though? That is dps not defense, unless you count the vitality boost on the tank and/or Tenacity. Unless the party mitigation scales off your hp it would basically be a non-factor

[VerdeLuck]

flat percentage mitigation has nothing to do with your weapon, though? That is dps not defense, unless you count the vitality boost on the tank and/or Tenacity. Unless the party mitigation scales off your hp it would basically be a non-factor

Why are you so hung up on the weapon? It's about having to gear 2x jobs and weapons aren't shared between tanks.

[Zairava]

Why are you so hung up on the weapon? It's about having to gear 2x jobs and weapons aren't shared between tanks.

I was just trying to stay consistent with what you mentioned, which was the weapon, before that it was the gear itself.

I understand why they went the "mit just mitigates both physical and magical" route, I just think it wasn't totally necessary for party mit. As long as all tanks can clear the content, what's the big deal? Potencies can be adjusted if they undertune the job

If they would finally increase the bloody tome cap it wouldn't be a huge issue to gear another tank or alt jobs (There's still farming the current ex if you really need to get said weapon for the other tank). Having comps exist isn't inherently a bad thing, but as you mentioned earlier this game's playerbase thinks of it as some form of kryptonite against the game's design. Which, to be fair, it currently is.