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  1. #771
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    Alexandre_Noireau's Avatar
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    Fredya Falenas
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    They could have done something for crafters/gatherers with the Garlemald restoration. Or Radz, after the Final Days. But Garlemald restoration is happening off screen, without our involvement, and Radz and surrounding areas just bounced back good as new. Or made Garlemald the new Eureka/Bozja, could have been a cool exploratory zone. Destroyed land mass, go in and explore and help restore order. Have some big raids on some Garlemald Castrums. Something like that would have been great to grind out over the course between 6.1 and 7.0.
    The exploratory area should have been the Northern Front of Dalmasca.
    Bring back Ramza.

    Deal with and finish off the III Legion. But this clearly got the Regula van Hydrus treatment. And have some of the raids arround the perifery of Garlemald so just only we can finally get rid of the "???" regions once and for all and the damned clouds.
    The restoration should have been indeed of Garlemald.

    Maybe next expansion finally?
    It's again extremely jarring to go to a new world when there is so much going on locally that also has been going on since centuries in game setting. I say we need a "Matsuno" style expansion dedicated to geopolitics since BEFORE shadowbringers or in between with Endwalker.
    Not more jarring than inter-reality phasing and/or time travel, specially the first being pulled right off from something that has been going on since almost a decade, a decade if you count 1.0, which is the confrontation with the Garlean Empire.
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    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
    Unmatched in heaven and earth, one body and one soul that challenge the gods!"

  2. #772
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The person literally said...
    This is a problem I think you have - you interpret something one way, decide/think that's the ONLY way to interpret it, introduce negative stuff not in the original (the OP didn't say anything resembling "too bad so sad"), and then when people explain to you there are other interpretations or even if the original poster points out to you that wasn't what they said or meant, you insist it is still the only way to interpret it and must be what they meant, even if they outright tell you it wasn't.

    For example, my interpretation of:

    "backlog of content that new players can basically never catch up in side content[/QUOTE]

    Veteran players have gone through a lot of their backlog, but a new player, there is so much content in the game already, even a trickle addition would be something one would be hard pressed to catch up to.

    That's an entirely valid interpretation of that statement. Imagine if you were starting the game TODAY. First ever time you logged in. Think about just how much MSQ you have to go through if you aren't a cutscene skipper. Now think about all the optional dungeons. Optional raids. Optional PvP. Tens of thousands of achievements, hundreds for any one kind of content. All of ARR, HW, Eureka, and Bozja relics. All the sidequests. All the side-stories. All the Jobs to level. All the stuff to unlock and collect from mounts to minions to emotes to BLU spells.

    Think about how much content if you were just going to 25% the game. That's a LOT.

    Note that it says literally nothing about veterans - nor does it berate them as "too bad so sad". That was entirely an injection of your own mind.

    Your way is not the only way to interpret it, "literally" or otherwise. The statement was not "new people can't catch up on side content. Grinding is bad". "Especially when there's such a backlog of content that new players can basically never catch up in side content, having the new side content no require you to spend hours a day grinding to cap this or grind out completions of this fate over and over is a net positive." does not actually make that statement anywhere. It says not grinding is a net positive, but makes no statement that grind is "bad". "But that's the ONLY way to interpre-" no, it's not. There are literally THREE other ways to interpret that outright; grinding is bad, grinding is neutral, grinding is good but not as good.

    Your last line is you trying to deflect from being incorrect AND you trying to derail the thread with more personal attacks, so I'm not going to entertain it. (I do think it's funny you just indicted the very thing you do and don't realize it). I'll just say, again, that no, it's not "the only way you can interpret that post".

    You need to stop doing this thing where you get stuck on YOUR interpretation and insist not only is it true, but that it's the only one, even after the OP themselves tells you it was not what they were saying.
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  3. #773
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    I have to wonder what the devs are doing with the extra time between patches, extra income from more subs and mogstations items, and all of that. Because it sure isn't going into creating things for players to do. Knowing SE, probably funneling the money into pits like Forspoken or whatever stupid crypto stuff they are up to these days.
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  4. #774
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    Perhaps it's time for more content to not be locked behind the completion of the MSQ's? Furthermore a new starting point could be introduced so new players can choose to skip what exists already and go back to it later if they so choose.

    I personally don't see much point in new players pushing for less content because they have 'too much to do' when they deliberately go out of their way to try out a game with ongoing development that has existed for roughly a decade already.
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  5. #775
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
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    Taking the first half of the point then stopping isn’t an interpretation, think of the wider point the person is making

    1) new people will never catch up (and valid statement even though I think the volume of content the majority of new people will genuinely interact with is overblown)
    2) grinding is in general bad
    3) this was in a thread mostly being populated by older veterans stating their isn’t enough content in the game

    You basically just responded to 1 and said “yep 1 is true”, but if 1 is true and used with 2 and 3 what other meaning are you basically able to draw from this other than “what vets want really doesn’t matter because there is enough content in the game”, come on this is basic context, the whole point of writing is you don’t have say every single word that that you mean, you can’t come up with a way that poster saying 1 and 2 in the context of 3 means she is totally pro adding more content for veterans, her point is totally clear, the OP never even actually refuted my point that her statement basically means she doesn’t care about vets all she said was the way I wrote her statement back to her wasn’t “exactly what she said”

    Seriously do we all have to type like 5 year olds to understand context, arguing on semantics of how I quoted a person isn’t saying the way I interpreted their point is wrong we are basically at the point of someone saying “the sky is green” another person saying “it’s actually blue” then a third person coming in and saying “acshooly they didn’t say the sky WASNT blue they said the sky was green”
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 09-06-2023 at 04:20 PM.

  6. #776
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I have to wonder what the devs are doing with the extra time between patches, extra income from more subs and mogstations items, and all of that. Because it sure isn't going into creating things for players to do. Knowing SE, probably funneling the money into pits like Forspoken or whatever stupid crypto stuff they are up to these days.
    Well, if we want to pull out tinfoil hat theories...

    They apparently announced FF16 will have 2 paid DLCs

    They're thinking about giving Chronotrigger FF6, and FF9 the remake treatment.

    A tiny amount of consideration has been given to finally porting DQX outside of Japan

    We'll have to see if anything interesting appears at the Tokyo Games Show. Japanese publishers and developers love using it to announce new things.
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  7. #777
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    Actually, her opinion isn't even valid. She plays a gacha game while admitting she does have slight addiction problems with gambling.She needs constant gratification and that's just not happing in between expansions in FFXIV, it never has and never will.
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  8. #778
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    Quote Originally Posted by NailBach View Post
    Actually, her opinion isn't even valid. She plays a gacha game while admitting she does have slight addiction problems with gambling.She needs constant gratification and that's just not happing in between expansions in FFXIV, it never has and never will.
    Plenty of players share her concerns for the future of the game without playing gatcha games, though. Furthermore it's not like FFXIV itself doesn't increasingly lean on optional items with limited availability...
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  9. #779
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by NailBach View Post
    Actually, her opinion isn't even valid. She plays a gacha game while admitting she does have slight addiction problems with gambling.She needs constant gratification and that's just not happing in between expansions in FFXIV, it never has and never will.
    I'm just going to assume at this point you didn't even watch the video, because she's not asking for constant gratification in it, and even goes to point out she's not asking for an extreme treadmill experience. She's also not alone in these concerns.
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  10. #780
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    Quote Originally Posted by NailBach View Post
    Actually, her opinion isn't even valid. She plays a gacha game while admitting she does have slight addiction problems with gambling.She needs constant gratification and that's just not happing in between expansions in FFXIV, it never has and never will.
    I despise gacha and pretty much share her opinion on everything.

    Because, surprise surprise, those gacha games have absolutely nothing to do with ffxiv, since there is no gacha. You can play and indulge in other games while still seeing the faults of this expansion. I don't spend every waking moment playing this game, but this game actively feels like it doesn't want me to log in with Endwalker to much of any capacity.

    Also maybe if you people would actually watch the damn video before commenting about it you would see she's trying to be as open-minded as possible. Don't decide to come in here and blabber about her character then be surprised when people ragdoll you.
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    Last edited by Zairava; 09-06-2023 at 06:16 PM. Reason: removed double word on first sentence

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