Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Theodric]

Yeah, of course. I've gotten death threats for some of the things I've said on this forum, since I don't hide who I am whatsoever. And I am an absolute nobody.

Likewise. It's unfortunately very common - I know quite a lot of players who have received credible threats of physical harm and 'forced correction' simply for reacting 'incorrectly' to certain characters in the story or liking and disliking the 'wrong' things.

[Kaurhz]

I'm not watching 60 minutes of this, but in the first 10 minutes she seems to be saying that really only the top raiders and then content creators/streamer should be catered to for content. I strongly disagree with her and the fact that FFXIV doesn't entirely just cater to the top raiders and streamers was part of why I initially picked it up when I'm not generally an MMO fan. It shouldn't feel like a job to the average player, and providing enough content to continually feed the desires of the top players and streamers who play this game 12 hours a day every day would turn it into exactly that, it would be a job that you would need to grind like crazy to keep up.

Uh, no...

She wasn't saying that the point that she was making is that Streamers and Content Creators can and do bring a significant number of players into the game, and for free no less... - and that if you do have a content deficit for the most recent expansion then it can dis-incentivise those content creators to play and thus market your game. - It's an important aspect whether you like it or not.

Now, overall, I think the entire game if we were including all expansions, then it does have bountiful content, but in reality, people will stream -- and will watch people stream -- if they are doing something new, novel or different. People will watch streamers and content creators when there's new content released, and there just hasn't been enough of that, and frankly, grinding tomes in hunt trains is not as watch-able as something such as doing Bozja duels, raids, etc., - There's a balance to be struck with it. - Nobody is interested in seeing what content a game had several years ago, the people watching and potentially buying are looking out to what people are doing once they've hit that cap.

It's not necessarily catering to those content creators or players, it is just giving a reason for those content creators to... Create content and stream. -- Do I enjoy fishing and achievement hunting? Of course, but it's not something that is going to attract people on the same volume as other pieces of content -- It doesn't mean these areas of content suck, just that they're difficult -- nigh on impossible to make engaging.

The only reason it would feel like a job to anyone is if they self-inflict this mindset on themselves. For as dramatic as Heavensward was in every single avenue -- Not even this expansion felt or imposed that. It just asked that you interact and engage with the content to a mild level.

The only thing I would potentially pick apart is the catering to hyper-casuals vs other crowds of players... To put it respectfully, I do think it's nonsense. I don't really think anyone is being catered to, at all. Bar maybe raiders, they've had quite a lot to eat.

[Leifei]

Ah yes, more entertainment has arrived.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

Holy clickbait threadnaught, Batman. Sorry, but I was too busy playing the game all weekend to play forum troll tea party with you fine people.

[AlexiaD]

Holy clickbait threadnaught, Batman. Sorry, but I was too busy playing the game all weekend to play forum troll tea party with you fine people.

"clickbait thread"

"literally the title of the video the thread is about"

[Rolder50]

Holy clickbait threadnaught, Batman. Sorry, but I was too busy playing the game all weekend to play forum troll tea party with you fine people.

Let me just look at the lodestone here... Yep new player. Just goes to show, new players are fine and it's the veterans who are struggling.

[ZephyrMenodora]

"clickbait thread"

"literally the title of the video the thread is about"

Well, Zepla herself admitted the title of her own video was a little click-baity. She shared it's the nature of being a content creator and titles have to be interesting.

[AlexiaD]

Well, Zepla herself admitted the title of her own video was a little click-baity. She shared it's the nature of being a content creator and titles have to be interesting.

And what does this have to do with Titanmen and the title of his thread ? He literally just used the name of the video, the thread isnt clickbait.

Let me just look at the lodestone here... Yep new player. Just goes to show, new players are fine and it's the veterans who are struggling.

Pretty much tbh, it's almost always the new players with "there is so much to do in the game"

[Xeronia]

I would largely agree with her statement now having watched the video and I do believe I have said a lot of these same points before on the forums here. The new content introduced this expansion has almost no shelf life and can be finished in a few days which worries me as a lot of it seems to be returning for Dawntrail. I do hope there is more info at future fanfests to show us whatever new innovations this content may have had to make it a bit longer lasting such as the often cited V&C dungeon rewards. I would also say the relic being just tomestones is also an issue as you can rather easily have that done as you complete the required quests if you prepare for it at all. I can understand the fact people want multiple relics but I don't understand why they threw one time steps form Bozja out the window. Make the one time step something like go to all *insert expansion here* dungeons one time and then make subsequent relics tomestones.

I also did see it noted a bit earlier in the thread the true changes I noticed the most was basically the death of in the world social experiences. The only thing I would call close was the FATE trains at the start of the expansion on the bi-color gemstone grind and even that eventually just got taken over by bots at least on my server. If I had to give a review of my issues with Endwalker it feel designed to be a game you come in and play for a week and then leave which makes me question why I am keeping a monthly subscription to it aside from rather stupid hopes my FC will return next expansion and someone needs to keep the house in tact.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

There are many other games that have also come out in the past ten years…

The only reason I’ve even played as much of this game as I have is exactly because the devs are explicitly prioritizing the experience of the new player’s journey through the game over the whims of the hardcore endgame raid meta.