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  1. #681
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inp7MTOAwro

    Just an update if this hasn't been posted already. Zepla posted an update video for the reactions to her original video.

    Interestingly enough she states she loves the game so much she is the type of player to find things to do even if she's not super hyped.

    So not a hate video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    When you have been flying around expansion areas for 2 years, a change of scenery is nice. It's for the same reason that I don't go back and watch films or shows that I've already seen. I don't want to be stuck in a repeating loop of the past. I want to do something new.
    I'll be honest then, I think you're going to continue to be disappointed in FFXIV at this rate. I just don't see the devs changing how they're currently doing things on a large scale anytime soon. If they lose enough of the perma subs, maybe, but until that happens, I doubt they will.

    Hey, hopefully I'm wrong, and maybe they'll pull out a ton of repeatable content for every style of player for the next ten years of patches, but yea..just saying that makes me chuckle, because it's just so unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inp7MTOAwro

    Just an update if this hasn't been posted already. Zepla posted an update video for the reactions to her original video.

    Interestingly enough she states she loves the game so much she is the type of player to find things to do even if she's not super hyped.

    So not a hate video.
    She also implied that actually, the people praising the game are the 1%. Not to say complainers are the 99%, the complainers are probably the 1% too. The 99% just silently stick around or get bored and leave without saying anything, apathy is the most dangerous issue, if everyone doesn't care to even complain anymore, that's when you know the game is really, really dead. Actually if you look at a lot of horrible, dead MMOs, their community is full of praise, just because of selection, the people still sticking around in dead MMOs are obviously very invested. If you look at New World, most of it is actually an echo chamber of praise now, but that's only because 95% already left after a few months of intense criticism, but after those few months they really just left and no one really complains anymore. Some people want FF14 to become like that too, I think they hate the complainers so much they would rather this game die and lose 95% of the players than tolerate criticism ^^
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    Last edited by FenyxRising; 09-06-2023 at 02:24 AM.

  4. #684
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    She also implied that actually, the people praising the game are the 1%. Not to say complainers are the 99%, the complainers are probably the 1% too.
    Yes I think in the grand scheme, most players probably aren't invested that much either way - but probably still will leave if they are bored.

    Edit: Also agree with your take on your edit
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 09-06-2023 at 02:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Yes I think the grand scheme of the players probably aren't invested that much either way - but probably still will leave if they are bored.
    100%

    this game is what upwards of 1, 1.5 million subs and we got the same 20 people on the forums and one guy with 60 alts? Feedback is scarce either direction. Most people are silent enjoyers or silent leavers.
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  6. #686
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inp7MTOAwro

    Just an update if this hasn't been posted already. Zepla posted an update video for the reactions to her original video.

    Interestingly enough she states she loves the game so much she is the type of player to find things to do even if she's not super hyped.

    So not a hate video.
    I'm not watching 60 minutes of this, but in the first 10 minutes she seems to be saying that really only the top raiders and then content creators/streamer should be catered to for content. I strongly disagree with her and the fact that FFXIV doesn't entirely just cater to the top raiders and streamers was part of why I initially picked it up when I'm not generally an MMO fan. It shouldn't feel like a job to the average player, and providing enough content to continually feed the desires of the top players and streamers who play this game 12 hours a day every day would turn it into exactly that, it would be a job that you would need to grind like crazy to keep up.
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  7. #687
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    I'm not watching 60 minutes of this, but in the first 10 minutes she seems to be saying that really only the top raiders and then content creators/streamer should be catered to for content. I strongly disagree with her and the fact that FFXIV doesn't entirely just cater to the top raiders and streamers was part of why I initially picked it up when I'm not generally an MMO fan. It shouldn't feel like a job to the average player, and providing enough content to continually feed the desires of the top players and streamers who play this game 12 hours a day every day would turn it into exactly that, it would be a job that you would need to grind like crazy to keep up.
    I didn't get that impression. She had said that not everyone wants to raid, but that even raiders want other things to do too.

    Edit: Rewatching the first 10 minutes. She did say how content creators help with marketing, which is true. But she also was responding to a comment, and stated she left out the content creator discussion on purpose from her original video. She didn't say that the game has to only cater to content creators though.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 09-06-2023 at 02:33 AM.

  8. #688
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    I'm not watching 60 minutes of this, but in the first 10 minutes she seems to be saying that really only the top raiders and then content creators/streamer should be catered to for content. I strongly disagree with her and the fact that FFXIV doesn't entirely just cater to the top raiders and streamers was part of why I initially picked it up when I'm not generally an MMO fan. It shouldn't feel like a job to the average player, and providing enough content to continually feed the desires of the top players and streamers who play this game 12 hours a day every day would turn it into exactly that, it would be a job that you would need to grind like crazy to keep up.
    We were watching 2 completely different videos then. She was simply saying that SE shouldn't forget about their more dedicated base. Not that they should be the only ones SE caters to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    We were watching 2 completely different videos then. She was simply saying that SE shouldn't forget about their more dedicated base. Not that they should be the only ones SE caters to.
    She also said later in the video that there are more dedicated players who dont want to raid, and to not forget about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    She also said later in the video that there are more dedicated players who dont want to raid, and to not forget about them.
    Yep. Exactly.
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