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    Sorry, but this is weird. The thought that I might be doing a dungeon, trial, raid or whatever with someone who is underage. It's weird. A 9 year old should not be playing this game. I don't know that they should be playing any mmo, to be honest. I know you can do duty support, but still.

    If this was an experiment you wanted to do, why wouldn't you do it with a single player game, if it was about practicing reading and patience? Why this game specifically?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    Sorry, but this is weird. The thought that I might be doing a dungeon, trial, raid or whatever with someone who is underage. It's weird. A 9 year old should not be playing this game. I don't know that they should be playing any mmo, to be honest. I know you can do duty support, but still.

    If this was an experiment you wanted to do, why wouldn't you do it with a single player game, if it was about practicing reading and patience? Why this game specifically?
    I'd suggest rereading my posts; You're reading a lot into this.

    This wasn't some grand experiment. This was "Daddy can I play with you?" that turned into me watching her play and/or having some observations/thoughts I thought to share.

    Why specifically is it weird for a 9 year old to play this game entirely solo without really interacting with anyone else? Would it make a difference if she was 13? or 16?

    US rates the game for 16+, Australia rates it as PG (so 12+), Japan I think is 15+.

    At the very least, she is playing the game while being monitored.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 09-05-2023 at 11:19 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I'd suggest rereading my posts; You're reading a lot into this.

    This wasn't some grand experiment. This was "Daddy can I play with you?" that turned into me watching her play and/or having some observations/thoughts I thought to share.
    I've read your posts. I still think it's weird to let a 9 year old play this game (or any mmo), regardless of the intention or background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    I've read your posts. I still think it's weird to let a 9 year old play this game (or any mmo), regardless of the intention or background.
    And why is it weird? What's so different about an MMO -played solo- compared to say, Skyrim? or Subnautica? or online Minecraft or Fortnite?

    My point is not argument, just curiosity- why would person A, who has no idea how old person B is and will never meet person B, care how old they are?
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    And why is it weird? What's so different about an MMO -played solo- compared to say, Skyrim? or Subnautica?
    Regardless of whether you can play it solo, there is possible interaction with people around the world. It's not suitable for a 9 year old to play. So yea, to me, this is a weird thing to do. If she wanted to play with you and you figured it was a good exercise for reading/patience, why didn't you pick any solo offline game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    Regardless of whether you can play it solo, there is possible interaction with people around the world. It's not suitable for a 9 year old to play. So yea, to me, this is a weird thing to do. If she wanted to play with you and you figured it was a good exercise for reading/patience, why didn't you pick any solo offline game?
    I mean, the same thing can be said about Minecraft, if played online.

    There was/is no why to why FFXIV. She knows my wife and I play it; she's seen us play it and asked specifically to play it.

    I didn't pick anything. I just hoped to utilize her interest constructively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Australia rates it as PG (so 12+)
    A Realm Reborn is PG, but either Heavensward or Stormblood increased that rating up one notch to M – recommended 15+ but not strictly enforced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    A Realm Reborn is PG, but either Heavensward or Stormblood increased that rating up one notch to M – recommended 15+ but not strictly enforced.
    Good to know! Thank you for the correction.

    I saw a blanket statement that said some countries like Australia Germany etc were 12ish; I wanna say UK also upped it from HW or SB, but can’t be sure.

    Regardless, we can’t really take the Pegi score or ESRB at face value.

    I mean, Fortnite is Pegi 12, but also has official merchandise marketed to 10 year olds.

    Or here in Japan has the Demon Slayer anime (with decapitation/dismemberment) also selling toys and Halloween costumes for preschool kids.

    Point being, I accept my kid isn’t the target audience, but I don’t think it unusual -or weird- for a small kid to consume media beyond what is intended for them.

    Doubly so if the media is going out of its way to market itself toward them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    The thought that I might be doing a dungeon, trial, raid or whatever with someone who is underage. It's weird.
    What does it matter who is on the other side on the monitor, if they can pull their weight? It's you who is weird, if you care about other player's irl characteristics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    Sorry, but this is weird. The thought that I might be doing a dungeon, trial, raid or whatever with someone who is underage. It's weird. A 9 year old should not be playing this game. I don't know that they should be playing any mmo, to be honest. I know you can do duty support, but still.

    If this was an experiment you wanted to do, why wouldn't you do it with a single player game, if it was about practicing reading and patience? Why this game specifically?
    Honestly, you'd be surprised. I was on a lot of multiplayer stuff when I was her age and there's so much worse out there. Also pretty sure OP is supervising.
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